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RE: [tracker2] Wham - Bam - Thankya Mam! R2=2K does the trick

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  • scott@opentrac.org
    I m not saying anyone would necessarily want it that way.. it was just my first pass at a hop limit implementation. What you ve presented is what I m going
    Message 1 of 10 , Apr 4, 2006
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      I'm not saying anyone would necessarily want it that way.. it was just my
      first pass at a hop limit implementation. What you've presented is what
      I'm going for in the next iteration.

      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
      > [mailto:tracker2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian B. Riley (N1BQ)
      > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:07 PM
      > To: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [tracker2] Wham - Bam - Thankya Mam! R2=2K does the trick
      >
      > OK, now the big question, why that? Its highly unlikely anyone would
      > code WIDE 6-3 as their starting (and if they do, tough!) so the
      > general assumption , true most of the time, is that any packet
      > arriving WIDE6-3 has had three hops, shouldn't it get made to
      > WIDE6* ???? What i think you have done is set them to be limited to
      > three hops starting at you, or 2 hops past you. I thought the point
      > is to limit to three (whatever number set in config) hops total.
      >
      > I would say that for a 3 hop limit this (below) should happen. For
      > 4 and 2 hop limits you can figure the rest out, Of course I am not
      > the coder here so it maybe be a beast.
      >
      > 7-7 -> 7-2
      > 7-6 -> 7-1
      > 7-5 7-4 7-3 7-2 7-1 -> 7*
      >
      > 6-6 -> 6-2
      > 6-5 -> 6-1
      > 6-4 6-3 6-2 6-1 -> 6*
      >
      > 5-5 -> 5-2
      > 5-4 -> 5-1
      > 5-3 5-2 5-1 -> 5*
      >
      > 4-4 -> 4-2
      > 4-3 -> 4-1
      > 4-2 4-1 -> 4*
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > On Apr 4, 2006, at 5:53 PM, <scott@...>
      > <scott@...>
      > wrote:
      >
      > > It would come out as WIDE6-2. WIDE6-6 would also come out
      > as WIDE6-2.
      > >
      > >> -----Original Message-----
      > >> From: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
      > >> [mailto:tracker2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian B.
      > Riley (N1BQ)
      > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:42 PM
      > >> To: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
      > >> Subject: Re: [tracker2] Wham - Bam - Thankya Mam! R2=2K does the
      > >> trick
      > >>
      > >> I still don't understand, what specifically would it do if set to
      > >> WIDE 3 hops to an incoming WIDE6-3. No digi or make it WIDE6* or
      > >> what?
      > >>
      > >> On Apr 4, 2006, at 4:16 PM, <scott@...>
      > >> <scott@...>
      > >> wrote:
      > >>
      > >>> As it stands now (again, subject to change) it'll only cap the
      > >>> remaining
      > >>> number of hops - in this case, it'd treat it just like an incoming
      > >>> WIDE3-3.
      > >>>
      > >>> Scott
      > >>>
      > >>>> -----Original Message-----
      > >>>> From: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
      > >>>> [mailto:tracker2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian B.
      > >> Riley (N1BQ)
      > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:56 PM
      > >>>> To: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
      > >>>> Subject: Re: [tracker2] Wham - Bam - Thankya Mam! R2=2K does the
      > >>>> trick
      > >>>>
      > >>>> also, assuming a WIDE 3 hops setting what will it do to
      > >>>>
      > >>>> WIDE6-3
      > >>>>
      > >>>> its already had 3 hops, does it simply fail to digipeat, or
      > >>>> give it a
      > >>>> 4th hop capping it to 'done'
      > >>>>
      > >>>> WIDE6*
      > >>>>
      > >>>> still inquiring
      > >>>>
      > >>>>
      > >>>> On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Brian B. Riley (N1BQ) wrote:
      > >>>>
      > >>>>> Ok, thats very simple, I wish Kantronics would adopt that ...
      > >>>>>
      > >>>>> now what does it do if I set the OT2 to
      > >>>>> WIDE 3 hops
      > >>>>> TRACE 3 hops
      > >>>>>
      > >>>>> and I receive a frame
      > >>>>>
      > >>>>> RELAY*, WIDE3-2,TRACE3-3
      > >>>>>
      > >>>>> inquiring minds want to know
      > >>>>>
      > >>>>>
      > >>>>>
      > >>>>> On Apr 4, 2006, at 1:15 PM, <scott@...>
      > >>>> <scott@...>
      > >>>>> wrote:
      > >>>>>
      > >>>>>> For WIDEn-n, just enter WIDE and the hop count. Same with the
      > >>>>>> state route.
      > >>>>>> As it stands now, if you enter WIDE and 3, for example,
      > >> it'll digi
      > >>>>>> WIDEn-n
      > >>>>>> for any value of n, but if n > hop count, it'll cap it. If a
      > >>>>>> WIDE6-5 comes
      > >>>>>> in, it'll go out as WIDE6-2. This might change in the
      > >>>> future, but
      > >>>>>> I'm
      > >>>>>> trying to keep it simple and consistent... I don't want to add
      > >>>>>> lots of
      > >>>>>> different parameters if I don't have to.
      > >>>>>>
      > >>>>>> And yes, to enable the digipeater you just check the
      > >> paths you want
      > >>>>>> to digi.
      > >>>>>> There's also the 'digi mycall' checkbox, which should be
      > >> checked by
      > >>>>>> default.
      > >>>>>>
      > >>>>>> Scott
      > >>>>>>
      > >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
      > >>>>>>> From: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
      > >>>>>>> [mailto:tracker2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian B.
      > >>>> Riley (N1BQ)
      > >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:39 AM
      > >>>>>>> To: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
      > >>>>>>> Subject: [tracker2] Wham - Bam - Thankya Mam! R2=2K
      > >> does the trick
      > >>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>> Aside from some minor board butchery (R2 is in the
      > >>>> darned place if
      > >>>>>>> the board is all done) I replaced R2-10k with a 2K
      > >> resistor and it
      > >>>>>>> worked like a charm, it loaded up and flashed etc .....
      > >>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>> Now, I am cornufuzed ... how does the digi configuration
      > >>>>>>> table work.
      > >>>>>>> Do I put in, say, WIDE3 and say 3 hops is OK and it will do
      > >>>>>>> all three
      > >>>>>>> hops. Then if I put in WIDE4 and say three hops is OK,
      > >>>> what will
      > >>>>>>> it do. How can I put in my SS (state route) VT and say as
      > >>>> many hops
      > >>>>>>> as it wants is OK. Or if I just want to do up ton
      > >>>> WIDE3-3, I put in
      > >>>>>>> WIDE1 (1 hop), WIDE2 (2 hops), and WIDE3 (3 hops) or
      > >> will WIDE3 (3
      > >>>>>>> hops) implicitly allow WIDE2 and WIDE1.
      > >>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>> How do you enable/disable the digipeater? just by checking/not
      > >>>>>>> checking the enables on the various paths?
      > >>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>> cheers ... 73 de brian riley, n1bq , underhill
      > center, vermont
      > >>>>>>> <n1bq@...>
      > >>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2006, at 12:32 AM, <scott@...>
      > >>>>>>> <scott@...> wrote:
      > >>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>> Great! Hopefully that R2 fix will work for all of the
      > >> bootloader
      > >>>>>>>> problems
      > >>>>>>>> people have been reporting. I'm going to do a little more
      > >>>>>>> research
      > >>>>>>>> before I
      > >>>>>>>> settle on a final value for it - I think 1k should be
      > >>>> fine, though.
      > >>>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>> And if you like it now, wait till I get my to-do list
      > >> done! One
      > >>>>>>>> big item
      > >>>>>>>> there is an APRS-IS connected web site that'll keep
      > >> track of your
      > >>>>>>>> T2's and
      > >>>>>>>> let you command them remotely (assuming they're in
      > Igate range)
      > >>>>>>>> with strong
      > >>>>>>>> authentication.
      > >>>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>> I'd like to have something ready in time for Dayton,
      > but that's
      > >>>>>>>> going to be
      > >>>>>>>> pushing it. Lead time on boards is about 3 weeks unless
      > >>>> I want to
      > >>>>>>>> pay a
      > >>>>>>>> premium. The hardware will really have to be ready about a
      > >>>>>>>> month in
      > >>>>>>>> advance, and that's only allowing time for kits -
      > >> assembled units
      > >>>>>>>> add even
      > >>>>>>>> more lead time. And that's assuming I stick with the current
      > >>>>>>>> through-hole
      > >>>>>>>> board for now, since a new SMT layout will mean more
      > >>>> testing, plus
      > >>>>>>>> solder
      > >>>>>>>> stencils and pick-and-place programming. Anyway, if I'm
      > >>>>>>> happy with
      > >>>>>>>> how it's
      > >>>>>>>> going in about three weeks, and if I can get
      > enclosures done in
      > >>>>>>>> time, I'll
      > >>>>>>>> aim to have the first production run before Dayton.
      > >>>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>> Speaking of the enclosure, I don't think I got any
      > >>>> feedback on the
      > >>>>>>>> drawing.
      > >>>>>>>> It's posted at http://n1vg.net/opentracker/ot1m.htm. Once
      > >>>>>>> you get the
      > >>>>>>>> viewer loaded, click 'rotate' and 'perspective', then drag
      > >>>>>>> the case
      > >>>>>>>> around
      > >>>>>>>> to view it.
      > >>>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>> This is going to be heavy duty steel in black powder
      > >>>> coat. I know
      > >>>>>>>> at least
      > >>>>>>>> one or two OpenTrackers have been destroyed by being
      > >> driven over
      > >>>>>>>> with a car;
      > >>>>>>>> looks like this version ought to be immune to anything that
      > >>>>>>> doesn't
      > >>>>>>>> run on
      > >>>>>>>> metal treads. =] I think Jim was also working on
      > an optional
      > >>>>>>>> mounting
      > >>>>>>>> bracket for it, so it'll be easier to bolt down to a
      > >> wall, shelf,
      > >>>>>>>> ammo can,
      > >>>>>>>> bulkhead, or what have you.
      > >>>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>> Scott
      > >>>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
      > >>>>>>>>> From: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
      > >>>>>>>>> [mailto:tracker2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kc9gqr
      > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:10 PM
      > >>>>>>>>> To: tracker2@yahoogroups.com
      > >>>>>>>>> Subject: [tracker2] ITS FIRED UP and its the next best thing
      > >>>>>>>>> to SLICED BREAD!!!!!!
      > >>>>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>>> Got my dumb mistakes fixed and have it running as a digi
      > >>>>>>> right now IE
      > >>>>>>>>> on a hand held so i don't create alot of QRM... and its
      > >>>>>>>>> picking up
      > >>>>>>>>> everything and digi like a PRO..Can't wait till the weekend
      > >>>>>>>>> till I can
      > >>>>>>>>> get a cable made for a mobile rig... WE GOT A
      > WINNER>>>>> so
      > >>>>>>>>> when the
      > >>>>>>>>> production start.... I will take 1 more and i know 5
      > >>>> more will be
      > >>>>>>>>> comming to the Springfield IL area
      > >>>>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>>>
      > >>>>>>>>> 73's
      > >>>>>>>>> Bradley
      > >>>>>>>>>
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