15527Re: [tracker2] Tracker3 / OT3m - next steps for a new owner (after the manual)?
- May 2, 2013On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:18 AM, wmacris <wmacris@...> wrote:
> I feel like I'm past the "how do I turn it on" stage but I'm a bit stuck whenSo you know that it's working, and you're good to go.
> comes down to the next step which is putting it to use.
> I know my tracker is functional and I know it's sending & receiving packets.
> Could use some help with the recommended settings for a new user's typical scenario.The default settings are a good starting point for a new user's
typical scenario. That's why they are the default settings. Many
people barely get past setting their own callsign in the equipment, so
it is best to have the equipment in a usable configuration by default.
> My questions are as follows:You probably mean path settings for your station, not digipeater
> 1 - How do I know what digipeater settings are "good" for a given environment?
settings, which would be the settings for a digipeater. Again, the
default parameters are the recommended settings.
> I am not comfortable using it longterm until I better understand the config.http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=Paths
> 2 - Part of why I ask for item #1 is because I would like to see my own stationYou're not looking hard enough! :)
> on aprs.fi. This is the second mystery - none of the websites docs have clearly
> explained how your symbols appear online.
This wiki page explains what it takes to get APRS messaging working.
It is beyond what it takes to be able to see a station on the
internet, since it also talks about messaging coming back from the
internet to RF. Position reports, messages, and every other APRS
packet all need to take the same route to get to the internet, so the
first half explains your query, and the whole thing will probably
answer an upcoming query.
Go look at the aprs.fi page for your station:
Zoom out so you can see Minneapolis, and then hover the mouse over
your station icon. A line will appear showing where the signal from
your station had to travel to end up on the internet. Right now it
shows me you got heard by N0QVC-1 in Faribault, 40 km away, and then
W0YC-10 in Minneapolis 76 km away heard the packet and gated it to the
internet. Those are fairly long hauls, and if at any time another
packet clobbers your packet, you're not going to see the result on the
> 3 - Interfacing the tracker to other software - e.g. APRISCE/32 - is a mystery.Why is it a mystery? Connect the OT to a computer and follow the instructions.
> When I had it set to MONITOR ON (not KISS mode) then APRSISCE/32If you get in your car and select the R position on the gear shift,
> complained about badly formatted packets.
would you complain about going backwards? You have to select the
proper mode for the program to be able to get the packets from the OT
in the right format.
> When I went to USBKISS ON, then it received no packets (even though whenThere's something else going on... If you are receiving packets that
> on monitor mode I see them repeatedly). It would be great to have a bit more
> clarity on the exact steps to get success. I've tried a few other programs with
> similar lack of results.
you can see with a terminal program connected to the OT, then when you
disconnect the terminal program, and connect APRSISCE/32 (with the
proper settings), you'll get packets showing up in APRSISCE/32.
You ARE disconnecting the terminal program from the port, and allowing
APRSISCE/32 or other programs access, aren't you? If you have a
terminal program connected to a serial port, no other program can gain
access to that port.
> 4 - As part of making the module appear online, do I need to set my OT3mNo, the icon simply tells other stations what little picture to draw
> to have a specific symbol type such as digi?
on the screen to represent your station. Typically people don't use
digipeater symbols for their house or car. There are conventions that
most people stick with, such as a picture of a car, truck, van, jeep,
or similar for their vehicle, airplane symbols for aircraft, balloon
symbols for balloons, houses to depict houses, etc. If you want to
track yourself while on horseback, there's even a symbol for that.
> Wondering if that affects how the module's packets are processed by otherYes it does... whatever you select as your icon will show up on other
> Are there specific data item contents that should be provided in the output?Yup, there are all kinds of different packets out there, and each one
has specific requirements.
> I have not yet found what I would call a good beginner's guide that addresses such questions.Here's your beginners guide:
Be aware, it's a little dry and technical, and if you manage to make
your way through it from front to back, and are able to ingest and
retain all the information, you will be an expert.
You're making this much too hard for yourself. You seem to be fixated
on knowing the minute details at the outset. Get an APRS program up
and running, and start out by learning the application layer... just
start learning what to look for on the screen, how to send messages to
people, and how to interpret what you see on the map.
Once you get comfortable there, you can start digging into the details
of how packets are put together, and other things like that.
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