- I wonder if the sender of this message would identify himself or herself. It s just nice to know who one is talking to, or hearing from. J. Gable ... From:Message 1 of 9 , Jan 5, 2004View SourceI wonder if the sender of this message would identify himself or herself.
It's just nice to know who one is talking to, or hearing from.
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From: "optic1858" <optic1858@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:05 PM
Subject: [tr-m] TV and Hollywood connections to the Roosevelts
> in 1993, i read that Michelle Pfeffier in researching her role in the
> Scoresese movie "Age of Innocence" based on Edith Wharton studied the
> voice of Ethel Roosevelt, TR's youngest daughter, in order to capture
> the true NY society accent of the period. Wonder if those tapes
> still exist? I'm sure Ethel Roosevelt died in the 70's and never met
> Michelle Pfeffier but i think the tapes were used as a dialect guide.
> Also, in 1970 or perhaps 1971, Sixty Minutes interviewed Alice
> Roosevelt. I don't think it was similiar to the Ed Bradley interview
> with Michael Jackson. But, i believe it was either Harry Reasoner
> who interviewed her. It is said that she did an imitation of Eleanor
> Roosevelt (who was already dead) as well as Mrs. Taft. I don't think
> it was an interview that touched upon too much personal stuff but i
> was wondering if anybody had seen this interview. I tried to find
> out about this through the Museaum of Public Broadcasting. Didn't
> get far enough. I think Harry Reasoner has passed on but i was
> certain he was the one who interviewed her.
> Also, i did read Michael Teague's book "Conversations with Mrs. L"
> published shortly after her death. I know that this author is
> deceased. But, in the book, he mentions interviewing her using tape
> recorder and transribing these tapes. If it took place in the late
> 70's, i would imagine these tapes were on regular cassettes and not
> reel to reel. Wonder if the Harvard library or if the Association
> has these tapes?? They would be interesting to listen to.
> Who Plays TR
> Regarding the question earlier posted, who would play TR - Richard
> Dreyfus would be a laughable choice!! He's too old!! Sorry - i
> always picture Mr. Hooper in Jaws and the Neebish teen in American
> Graffiti. Too short, too bald, and not even close to the kind of
> rough n tough character that TR was. Not to mention, Dreyfus'
> politics which was way left of TR. And his voice is so nasal and
> easily identifiable. He is a charming guy, a great actor, but...he's
> no TR.
> Past Tr's on screen
> I thought Brian Keith was too old in the movie in the 70's. Besides,
> Being Mr. Bill from Family Affair - he just couldn't pull off TR's
> presence. However, i think he did the best he could.
> I thought Tom Berenger was decent in the TNT film. He had the
> athletic build and the look pretty good. His acting chops are good.
> But, as a movie, i just didn't think it measured up.
> John Davidson in heavy make-up is OK. I just can't get over how
> Davidson was so perky in real-life like a over-hyper puppy dog. So, i
> can't get past that.
> So, now, we come to the question regarding the TR movie. We all know
> that Edmund Morris did write a screenplay in the 70's "The dude from
> NY". One wonders if Hollywood did it today what it would be like.
> This is the same Hollywood who has given
> us "Nixon", "JFK" "Gettysburgh" and of course "The Patriot".
> Several movies that haven't exactly delivered the goods either from
> the box office or from a historical angle.
> The Tr Movie - We can only speculate what Hollywood would do...
> Since the TR story would need to blend with the hip, attention span
> deficient youth of America - here is what Hollywood would do if they
> found the long-forgotten Edmund Morris' script "The Dude from New
> York". First, it would be produced by Harvey Weinstein of Miramax
> and be a similiar picture to the great Merchant-Ivory films of the
> mid- 90's done tastefully in a historically accurate fashion.
> i think Ben Affleck should play TR in Edmund Morris' old unfinished
> screen-play "The Dude From New York". Affleck could play TR and in
> heavy make-up he could play TR in the older years. Britney Spears as
> Alice Lee? Sandra Bullock as Edith? RObert Deniro as William
> McKinley? How about Matt Damon as Elliott Roosevelt, younger
> brother? Anthony Hopkins as Mark Hanna? Al Pacino as TR's, stern,
> loveable father? Jennifer Lopez as the highly eccentric and precious
> Mittie? Robin Williams as Cecil-Spring Rice? Paul Newman as Henry
> I wouldn't want to speculate what Oliver Stone would do to the "TR"
> screenplay. Let's just say - there would be a large focus on the
> Spanish-American War, The Panama Canal, and the Brownsville
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- ... I like Brian Keith and could sort of picture him acting as TR. If I may project, I think the problem optic has with the various actors mentionedMessage 2 of 9 , Jan 6, 2004View Source
> But Brian Keith was good physically as TR in that Milius film WindI like Brian Keith and could sort of picture him acting as TR.
> the Lion. It's just that the falsifications of history in that movie
> came fast and furious.
If I may project, I think the problem "optic" has with the various actors
mentioned previously is in being overly aware of other roles they had
played. With such a well-known face as TR's, it takes a lot of faith to toss
aside ingrained stuff and try to absorb what you're seeing on the screen. A
good, honest movie and good acting ability can go a long, long way in
overiding all the preconceptions but how often does a good movie come
along? I saw that latest version of Titantic over the holidays and can now
understand the addicting appeal it has for some people I know that have
seen it over and over, but was disappointed in its lost opportunities. And,
by the way, I could not mentally accept the "Misery" wacko as the
Unsinkable Molly Brown, no way! :-)