Re: [toyota-prius] Re: GM says No True Benefits from Hybrids (Wired Article)
- On Jun 30, 2005, at 4:06, john_tartar wrote:
> I simply connected these dots:Really... I haven't seen that.
> 1) The president strongly supports the development of hydrogen cars.
> 2) The president strongly supports new Nuclear Power plants.Haven't seen that either... how many has he gotten built in his first
six years in office?
> 3) We don't really need more electric power plants, unless we areDepends on how you feel about foreign oil, I suppose.
> going to need a lot more electricity for something new.
> 4) Electric power is an excellent way to produce hydrogen.No, actually it's not.
But you're welcome to continue the discussion in hybrid-politics.
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Peter Ellis <caelestia@g...>
> > There is an article in the current issue of Wired magazine thatjust
> > came out (with The Gorillaz on the cover) that is an interviewwith a
> > top level guy at GM (or maybe THE top level guy).Dunno about a war - I don't know anybody here who feels very
> If anyone's interested, I believe this is the same article:
> Interesting... not to start up a war again or anything :)
> Peter Ellis, Olympia, WA
> "Cassie" - Millenium Silver '04 Prius (base pkg)
differently than I do (or is it that I don't feel very differently
than they do?)
The overriding importance of hybrid technology in a fuel cell
powered car seems to escape GM, and that worries me more than any
other policy GM has for their future. The ability of hybrid power
trains to separate acceleration performance from engine (or fuel
cell) power is absolutely crucial to market acceptance of a fuel
cell vehicle. Who wants a car that has to warm itself up for a
minute or more (a lot more in cold weather)? Why make 100 KW fuel
cells for a car that only needs 20-30 KW steady state? Why forego
regenerative braking? If a non-hybrid fuel cell car and a hybrid
fuel cell car compete for market in a decade or so, the hybrid will
win hands down.
The broken path to a fuel cell future aside, it makes no sense to
ignore a vital enabling technology that - by the way - is a
moneymaker in today's market.