- In a message dated 12/19/2012 4:34:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, email@example.com writes: Children of Earth was okay, IMO, but it wasn t as good as theMessage 1 of 46 , Dec 19, 2012View SourceIn a message dated 12/19/2012 4:34:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
"Children of Earth" was okay, IMO, but it wasn't as good as the first two
Torchwood seasons. I saw Jack's sacrifice of his grandson as something
over which he had no control, so it didn't tarnish his image for me. Losing
Ianto was a big deal to me. If the show suffered damage from CEO, "Miracle
Day" finished the job. >>>
I too wish the original team had remained intact somehow. Although Tosh
and Owen had "good deaths" (i. e., real pain, real sacrifice, real meaning -
unlike Tasha Yar's death which made no sense on any level), it seemed odd
to me that there was no effort made to replace them, leaving empty slots on
the team. And then we lost Ianto, who was one of my favorite characters,
and Gwen and Jack had to carry the show (I don't count the Americans, they
were mostly badly written stick figures). The show lost most of its
character interest and that's never been fixed. So I'm not sure I would want it
back, if it comes back in the same lame condition.
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- I am so enjoying this discussion. I can t stand Gwen, never could for all the reasons listed - mean, selfish, but touted as perfect. I think I could haveMessage 46 of 46 , Sep 17, 2013View SourceI am so enjoying this discussion. I can't stand Gwen, never could for all the reasons listed - mean, selfish, but touted as perfect. I think I could have handled the mean and selfish if she'd not been considered wonderful, if she;d had some redeeming characteristic.
I haven;t seen Even in much, so no comments from me on that.
I too wonder what made RTD fall for her and mess up the show so badly. I still miss Ianto, but after all these years I'm finally reading Janto again.
Did not watch MD again; once was enough. I am watching the eps from the 1st two seasons that I have saved.
---- "pfyre@..." <pfyre@...> wrote:
> The truth behind the origins of 'Torchwood' or 'Excalibur' as it was originally titled when first pedaled to TPTB at the BBC by RTD has been discussed, dissected, debated and bandied about since pretty much since Torchwood premiered on BBC3.big snip