Re: [torchwood] Re: Will Torchwood Ever Return
- "Children of Earth" was okay, IMO, but it wasn't as good as the first two Torchwood seasons. I saw Jack's sacrifice of his grandson as something over which he had no control, so it didn't tarnish his image for me. Losing Ianto was a big deal to me. If the show suffered damage from CEO, "Miracle Day" finished the job.
Still hoping, though....
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> From: Michael <gilbeymichael11@...>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:01 PM
>Subject: [torchwood] Re: Will Torchwood Ever Return
>While Children of Earth did attract many new fans it also lost some of the older ones. Ianto's exit in episode five was not very pleasing and on top of that Jack's sacrifice of his young grandson did tarnish his image somewhat and many can't think of him in the same way anymore. While COE was highly entertaining there is little doubt that the show did suffer some damage from which it never fully recovered.
- I am so enjoying this discussion. I can't stand Gwen, never could for all the reasons listed - mean, selfish, but touted as perfect. I think I could have handled the mean and selfish if she'd not been considered wonderful, if she;d had some redeeming characteristic.
I haven;t seen Even in much, so no comments from me on that.
I too wonder what made RTD fall for her and mess up the show so badly. I still miss Ianto, but after all these years I'm finally reading Janto again.
Did not watch MD again; once was enough. I am watching the eps from the 1st two seasons that I have saved.
---- "pfyre@..." <pfyre@...> wrote:
> The truth behind the origins of 'Torchwood' or 'Excalibur' as it was originally titled when first pedaled to TPTB at the BBC by RTD has been discussed, dissected, debated and bandied about since pretty much since Torchwood premiered on BBC3.big snip