- I kind of agree with everyone. TW is such a great show/concept, yet it s being treated like a throwaway series. But it s not the first time a great show withMessage 1 of 31 , Apr 5, 2012View SourceI kind of agree with everyone. TW is such a great show/concept, yet it's being treated like a throwaway series. But it's not the first time a great show with great ratings was abandoned. I'll never figure that out. But TW must be generating a lot of cash in DVD sales, so doesn't that tell them anything?
I guess no one wants to deal with it. Like a bad penny. We had the first two seasons and all the legions of fans were like "yeah!", then the 5-hour series, then MD. Now, nothing. What? Why? I wish we could get some answers.
It's kind of like House. It's the most syndicated show in the world, yet Fox pleaded poverty and asked all the stars to take pay cuts (except Hugh Laurie) and Lisa Edelstein quit instead. But they're making millions and millions in syndication. I know it's not quite like TW, but the faulty logic here is just the same. And of course House is ending in May.
Just my daily gripe. I'm afraid our little group could end not so far into the future. We have nothing new to look forward to.
From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Leanne Wilensky
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 18:41
Subject: Re: [torchwood] New Torchwood series 'possible' but it won't be for a while, say bosses
If you had asked me in the first couple seasons whether I'd be ok w/ someone other than RTD doing Torchwood my answer would have been an easy no. But after MD and now NO Torchwood? I'd be ok with anyone else from the whoniverse writing.
- Thank you! You raise some really excellent points about Jack by the way. The glaring absence of UNIT left me with a mental image of the Valiant flying off withMessage 31 of 31 , Apr 9, 2012View SourceThank you! You raise some really excellent points about Jack by the way.
The glaring absence of UNIT left me with a mental image of the Valiant flying off with "Just Married" banners streaming behind it and all UNIT personal gathering on some island with all communication frequencies jammed. Out-of-office auto replies leaving no clue as to where they had gone! XD
Actually, at no point was Gwen really more genuinely moral than anyone else in the Hub. In "End of Days" Gwen was at the front of the line to do something absurdly dangerous (i.e. open the Rift) in order to save her boyfriend. Plus, after having a more-than-one-time affair with Owen she confessed to Rhys, purely because she selfishly wanted his forgiveness, but had proactively Retconned him so that no matter whether he did or not he would not remember her confession.
The real clincher was in "Adrift" here she appears to show empathy (except to Andy). But in reality she is just out to prove Jack wrong. It turns out that he cares enough to see to the care of those Rift victims that come back too badly damaged to just be Retconned and returned to society. Gwen just second-guesses him and is surprised that the result was not what she hoped for.
I agree with others here who have noted that RTD really seems to have tried to turn Torchwood into a vehicle for Eve Myles's career even if it meant driving said vehicle off of a cliff.
Also, why drown Jack in so much angst if he is lacking in human feelings? Pretty much ALL of his stories, with or without Gwen, are about his emotions, regrets, lost loves, etc... By the time we get to MD Jack is just a plain woobie whose sole purpose is to highlight how quickly Gwen morphed into a superior action girl!
--- In email@example.com, "sem" <catz@...> wrote:
> Loved this email. Reminded me of a lot of things I'd conveniently forgotten,
> but you almost have to do this in the Whoniverse.
> However, this sentence:
> "Maybe the world too, since Martha seemed to have taken the whole of UNIT
> along on her honeymoon such that they were studiously unavailable."
> Made me spit coffee out of my nose I was laughing so hard.
> I also have a real problem with Gwen needing to remind Jack of the "human"
> aspect in TW. For all intents and purposes, he is/was human (even tho not of
> earth), and spent all his time after meeting the Doctor trying to help
> humans as well as others ("Meat" comes to mind.). What does he need
> reminding of? He fought in the wars! Hell, he WANTS to be mortal again. OK,
> end of rant. I'm just really annoyed that TW is no more. The tag team of DW
> and TW were real highlights of my tv-watching for a few years. It seemed
> completely logical that such a highly rated (and loved) show would continue.
> Silly me.