Re: [torchwood] New Torchwood series 'possible' but it won't be for a while, say bosses
- MD could not have been such a huge 'flop' if Starz is willing to keep
the idea of another series/season on the back burner. Frankly, MD was as
different from COE as COE was different from series 1 & 2. Was MD
perfect? Hardly -- but a flop? I don't think so. *shrug*
As for the getting 'back to the good stories & writing' - RTD says he's
not interested in writing episodic television so if there is another
series of Torchwood - it would again be an umbrella series arc. And for
all the nostalgia of how great series one and two were - there were some
really bad klinkers in those stories as well.
I can't see RTD being willing to let go of Torchwood and Moffat has said
he's not interested in trying to take over Torchwood if it were offered
/A true friend is someone who thinks that you are a good egg even though
he knows that you are slightly cracked. /Robert Meltzer
On 4/4/2012 9:27 PM, wazr McC wrote:
> I don't understand why RTD doesn't let someone in the UK take over& continue back in Wales. They must be able to fix it after the flop of the American MD. Get back to the good stories& writing that made Torchwood so great.
> From: pfyre<oshaun@...>
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2012 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [torchwood] New Torchwood series 'possible' but it won't be for a while, say bosses
> Torchwood is RTD's baby even moreso than the rebooted DW was - after all
> DW with Eccelston was a 'reboot' but Torchwood is RTD's.
> As much as I think RTD has not a single clue when it comes to Gwen
> Cooper/Eve Myles - the series is his.
> /A true friend is someone who thinks that you are a good egg even though
> he knows that you are slightly cracked. /Robert Meltzer
> On 4/2/2012 7:47 PM, R Hall wrote:
>> C'mon now - is RTD the only living person on the planet who can "run" Torchwood??? Do we fans really have to wait until he "comes back" before we get a new season of the show??? Can't David Moffatt or someone like him run one season of it??? I sympathize with Mr. Smith's illness and am very glad that Mr. Davies is taking the time to take care of him. I pray that Mr. Smith is not, and will not be, suffering too terribly.
>> Although I'm an American, I'm crossing everything I can - eyes, fingers, etc., that when/if we get season four, it will come out of the BBC from Britain. I do NOT want to see another season like "Miracle Day!" I know that many fans enjoyed "Miracle Day," so kindly understand that what I'm writing is only my opinion, as well as that of many other fans, I'm sure.
>>> From: pfyre<oshaun@...>
>>> To: email@example.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:17 AM
>>> Subject: [torchwood] New Torchwood series 'possible' but it won't be for a while, say bosses
>>> By Daniella Graham - 28th March, 2012
>>> New Torchwood series 'possible' but it won't be for a while, say bosses
>>> Torchwood: Miracle Day saw the show become a British-American
>>> co-production for the first time, with US network Starz working
>>> alongside BBC Wales.
>>> The 10-part received a mixed reception from critics and fans alike, with
>>> key members of the Torchwood team remaining elusive regarding the show's
>>> long-term future.
>>> Starz's Chris Albrecht had said Torchwood was 'not one of the shows we
>>> went into thinking about a yearly return,' with the hectic work schedule
>>> of Russell T Davies the main reason for Torchwood being put on hold.
>>> But now he has explained if Davies becomes available a new series may be
>>> possible, telling Multichannel News: 'You know, Russell [T Davies] is so
>>> busy. Obviously, we're in touch with the BBC all the time. They are our
>>> partners on [new shows] DaVinci's Demons and Harem.
>>> 'We told them, we stand by ready for any news, but I think it would be a
>>> while before Russell came back to Torchwood.'
>>> Russell T Davies put his TV projects on hold in December after his
>>> partner Andrew Smith was diagnosed with brain cancer, but has since
>>> announced a
- Thank you! You raise some really excellent points about Jack by the way.
The glaring absence of UNIT left me with a mental image of the Valiant flying off with "Just Married" banners streaming behind it and all UNIT personal gathering on some island with all communication frequencies jammed. Out-of-office auto replies leaving no clue as to where they had gone! XD
Actually, at no point was Gwen really more genuinely moral than anyone else in the Hub. In "End of Days" Gwen was at the front of the line to do something absurdly dangerous (i.e. open the Rift) in order to save her boyfriend. Plus, after having a more-than-one-time affair with Owen she confessed to Rhys, purely because she selfishly wanted his forgiveness, but had proactively Retconned him so that no matter whether he did or not he would not remember her confession.
The real clincher was in "Adrift" here she appears to show empathy (except to Andy). But in reality she is just out to prove Jack wrong. It turns out that he cares enough to see to the care of those Rift victims that come back too badly damaged to just be Retconned and returned to society. Gwen just second-guesses him and is surprised that the result was not what she hoped for.
I agree with others here who have noted that RTD really seems to have tried to turn Torchwood into a vehicle for Eve Myles's career even if it meant driving said vehicle off of a cliff.
Also, why drown Jack in so much angst if he is lacking in human feelings? Pretty much ALL of his stories, with or without Gwen, are about his emotions, regrets, lost loves, etc... By the time we get to MD Jack is just a plain woobie whose sole purpose is to highlight how quickly Gwen morphed into a superior action girl!
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "sem" <catz@...> wrote:
> Loved this email. Reminded me of a lot of things I'd conveniently forgotten,
> but you almost have to do this in the Whoniverse.
> However, this sentence:
> "Maybe the world too, since Martha seemed to have taken the whole of UNIT
> along on her honeymoon such that they were studiously unavailable."
> Made me spit coffee out of my nose I was laughing so hard.
> I also have a real problem with Gwen needing to remind Jack of the "human"
> aspect in TW. For all intents and purposes, he is/was human (even tho not of
> earth), and spent all his time after meeting the Doctor trying to help
> humans as well as others ("Meat" comes to mind.). What does he need
> reminding of? He fought in the wars! Hell, he WANTS to be mortal again. OK,
> end of rant. I'm just really annoyed that TW is no more. The tag team of DW
> and TW were real highlights of my tv-watching for a few years. It seemed
> completely logical that such a highly rated (and loved) show would continue.
> Silly me.