RE: [torchwood] great disservice
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Subject: Re: [torchwood] great disservice
Thank you for your kind words.
As for Jack and the destruction of his character and the concept of
Torchwood 3 - I honestly don't know what RTD was thinking unless they
were concerned that TW might pose some sort of popularity threat to DW?
For all that RTD seems to have nothing but praise for John and Capt
Jack, he has consistently dealt with Jack very poorly. I know that
many were thrilled that the Doctor and Jack spoke during Utopia and
apparently cleared the air between them but to my view it was a cop
out. Did I need a huge touchy-feely-squishy scene between the Doctor
and Jack? No! But in view of the situation for Jack - the life he's
had to lead since Rose brought him back to life permanently - making
that fixed point in space and time - the Doctor's explanation and
lack of remorse for his actions - abandoning Jack on the satellite
station in 200100 - just doesn't cut it for me. His excuse that he
was at first affected by regeneration sickness and unable to deal
with the 'wrongness' of Jack being a fixed point in space and time
and later he just didn't want to deal with that 'wrongness' was total
and complete bullsh!t as far as I'm concerned.
If that was indeed the real and complete reason for abandoning Jack
and then trying to runaway from him when Jack finally hooked up with
the TARDIS in Cardiff - then that destroys a bit of the Doctor's
character and credibility for me - cause it makes the Doctor a coward
in the worst possible way. Sure he'll face disaster and universe
threatening catastrophes, his enemies and monsters with nary a
thought but the idea of facing a former companion that he abandoned
with little thought makes him want to runaway? There are times when I
agree with some of the Doctor's nemesis. The Doctor rarely sticks
around the deal with the aftermath of his brilliant solutions that
also so often lead to many deaths and massive clean ups and rebuilding.
With Jack - the initial abandonment could easily be explained and
understood - but the Doctor really had an obligation to help the man
who had sacrificed his life to allow the Doctor to finish his delta
wave generator. How cruel is it to allow Jack to think the Doctor did
not know, could not possibly know that Jack was alive on the station?
How cruel is it to allow Jack to find out the hard way that while he
can die he cannot remain dead? How cruel is it to then rather
off-handedly explain that he knew Jack was alive all along and just
didn't want to be around him because according to the Doctor Jack was
'wrong'. The Doctor punished Jack for what Rose did to him. She
didn't know that she had done it and was simply unable to control the
power of the Vortex but that didn't mean that Jack was responsible
either. Yet, the Doctor never treated Rose differently because of
what she had done to Jack or that she had destroyed the Dalek fleet.
So why is Rose the 'favored' companion and Jack the 'wrong' companion?
For me it comes down to RTD and his view of the Doctor, the
companions - most especially Rose and of Jack. RTD appears to value
the female companions far more than the male. And in the case of
Jack he's created a character that many many fans love - a character
with quirks and foibles and faults - a character that rose from a
devil may care conman to a man that does the right thing when he can
and is capable of making the hard decisions and living with the
consequences. Yes, I do understand that the writers cannot possibly
make everyone happy and cannot cater to their audience in all aspects
but I stand by my statement - RTD has done and continues to do a HUGE
disservice to Jack and to John.
At 07:24 AM 7/30/2010, Carole Maddern, annotated:
>Pfyre, as ever, you articulate beautifully and clearly, thanks for------------------------------------
>your posts. I woke up today really annoyed with the whole COE
>destructon of Jack. When did he suddenly become so utterly inept,
>dependent on others to initiate and motivate, incapable of
>formulating the slightest sensible plan??! I mentally listed Captain
>Jack's actions in COE and realised how feeble they all are, with one
>exception: saving Gwen and Ianto from the bomb. But every other
>single step he takes is disastrous, idiotic, or prompted by other
>people; in short RTD just about destroyed Jack's character. Why?
>That fantastic hero figure built up over all the DrWho and early TW
>arcs, then dismantled. I think 'disservice' hardly begins to cover
>the demolition job!
>Rant over (for now...)
>Regards to all.
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