Re: heat interview - JOHN BARROWMAN - CORRECTED
- [it has been pointed out that I forgot the word
NOT in the Prada comment - my apologies]
"I've had Botox, but I didn't like it"
He sleeps with his dog, he thinks he's got oily
skin and he'd like to adopt a ten-year-old. John Barrowman talks to Simon Gage
"Give me your finger," says John Barrowman,
bouncing on a sofa in his agent's office in
London's West End. Well, you're going to worry
when he says something like that, aren't you?
"What are you going to do with it?" shouts his
agent. "Suck it?" But he doesn't suck it.
Instead, he takes it in his hand and runs it all
over his face. John's trying to prove that he
hasn't had plastic surgery, after heat just told
him we suspected him of succumbing. How rubbing
our finger all over his face is going to prove
anything, though, is anyone's guess.
John Barrowman is, in short, being as much fun as
always. His laughs are big, his skin thick (and a
little greasy, which is presumably what we were
supposed to pick up on) and his handshake
decidedly limp. Well, he had a little accident
stepping out of his Torchwood trailer recently,
slipped and now has a bruise that extends down
the inside of his wrist and under the strap of his designer watch.
If there is a renaissance man operating in
showbiz today, it is John Barrowman: TV
presenter, singer, West End Wendy, telly actor
(Torchwood, Doctor Who), film actor (The
Producers), documentary maker, author (his
autobiography came out last year) he probably
even takes in washing at the weekend. He's also a
respectable Civil Partnershipped-up gay man with
a good record for speaking out about gay rights.
So is there anything wrong with John Barrowman?
Nothing that we can put our finger on
Your new album is out at the end of the month.
It's a bit soon for another album, isn't it?
Is it? The last one was released last November.
It's actually a year almost to the day.
So this is going to be like an annual thing? It's
24 November, there must be a new John Barrowman album out
I hope so! But this album's completely different
from the last one, in the sense that all the
songs I chose last time were ones that had some personal story attached
And this time it's just any old stuff you've thrown together, right?
No! These ones have a personal attachment, but
there are three different styles of music
that's why it's called Music Music Music. It's
also a kind of coin my TV catchphrase: fantastic, fantastic, fantastic.
Are you going to be involved in any more Reality
TV series to discover new West End stars?
[To his agent] Are we allowed to say that we're
not? Yeah, we're not doing another series like
I'd Do Anything. We're putting it to bed for a year.
Is it true that Andrew Lloyd Webber wants you and
Denise Van Outen to do a Phantom Of The Opera sequel?
Put it this way, Phantom 2 has been mentioned to
us, but Denise playing Christine Daaé? She's got
to be an operatic singer. Denise isn't a
coloratura [a type of operatic soprano], she's
more of a belter. But I'd be up for anything.
Andrew has mentioned it, and it's almost
finished. He has actually said to me, "I'd love
to play you the new song from the show."
Why is it that you've got an American accent, but
when you were talking to your parents in the
documentary Why Am I Gay? [sic actual title The
Making of Me] you had a Scottish one?
When we moved to America, I got bullied because
of the Glaswegian accent, so I decided to speak
American. I tried to beat them at their own game.
Are you sure they were bullying you about your accent?
I didn't get bullied cos I was gay. I fitted in.
I was actually better at sports than a lot of
other boys. The bullying for being gay probably
happened later. The accent thing is like someone
who's bilingual, except that both of the
languages are English, just different accents.
The Scottish-speaking John is the same as this
John, he's just a little more forceful. Scott, my
partner, doesn't like it when I speak like the
Scottish John he says he's too aggressive.
He doesn't get off on that?
No! [Laughs.] Well, maybe. I loved doing the
documentary. I went into it knowing that nothing
was going to change how I feel about myself, but
there are still a lot of people out there who
thing that you choose to be gay and you don't.
So you and Scott are now civil partners. What's next? Kids?
Well, maybe some day.
You're knocking on a bit you want to get on with it.
What do you mean I'm knocking on?
Well, you're 40, aren't you?
They're not going to let you adopt if you get
much older. You'll have to do a Madonna and go to Africa
You don't have to just adopt. I could have a kid.
But I don't know, we've never really delved into
it. I wouldn't do what Madonna did. I do have a
very close friend who when I saw her in LA this
summer said that if we wanted a child, she'd be
happy to carry the child for us. I know that she
would like to have a baby at some point.
So what do you do, share?
Well, it's not like a Prada coat. I think what
would happen is we would, er, we'd have See,
these are the things that I haven't thought
about. But the child would just have a wonderfully large extended family.
That would be the end of your wild Speedo parties, though, wouldnt it?
Like I've had any! Oh, I wish! But once you have
children, your life changes. We don't go out much any more, Scott and I
Maybe you're ready?
Maybe we are. Well, if we do decide we're going
to go for it, heat will be the first to know!
With exclusive pictures. Actually, Scott has said
that if we adopted, he would maybe want to adopt a child who's a little older
What, like 23?
No! Like maybe about nine or ten years old,
because there are a lot of kids that age, boys
and girls, who just don't get adopted. They're
left. And that's the thing that kind of upsets me.
Do you think it would be difficult to bring a
ten-year-old child into a gay household, because
they might already have their own prejudices?
See, I don't look at it as joining a gay
household, I look at it as joining a household.
And if a child comes into a household, there are
probably going to be things that they're not used
to. That's part of being a family: explaining
things and opening up their outlook to all kinds of stuff.
We know you're mad about your dogs. Are you one
of those people who thinks of your dogs as your babies?
Yeah, but not in a gross way. I don't carry them
around and I don't say things like, "Make good poopy."
Do you let them kiss you on the lips?
I do. Well, you know, they're my babies. My old
dogs would always sleep in the bed in my arms, actually.
Did you wake up smelling of dog?
Yeah, but that's what washing machines are for,
and you take a shower. But because Scott never
grew up loving dogs, he doesn't like the dogs in
the bed. It's funny if he's there, they sit
outside the room, they don't come in. And their
bed's outside the door. When Scott goes away to
work, they're right in. Jack will burrow under
the covers and sleep right in the crutch of your
leg. And Charlie will sleep at the bottom of the
bed. It's company. We did the photoshoot with
Jack because I can get him to eat out of my mouth.
Let's get back to the surgery. Have you had any work done on your face?
What do you think?
Around your nose.
Oh, God, no! What makes you think that?
It's very smooth.
Well I never let anybody do this. Never! Feel my
skin. [Takes heat's finger and rubs it over his
face.] It's oily, yeah, I have really oily skin
That's just freaked me out cos I never let
anybody touch my face. That's really freaked me out.
Sorry about that. It was your idea.
That's alright. But I do have oily skin.
You've not had filler or anything like that?
I have never had filler. I'll be totally honest
with you I've tried Botox. But it made me
expressionless. I had it done here [touches his
forehead] and they do it up in your eyes here
[touches his eyes], so it lifts everything. After
a few weeks, you do notice the difference, but
what I noticed was that I looked, like, still.
And in a lot of stuff on camera, I like to squint
a little bit: men need expression. I'm not saying
I wouldn't have it done around my crow's feet, but I'm OK at the moment.
What about trying concealer a men's Touche Eclat?
I don't believe in all that stuff. I use make-up,
but only for work, not every day. I usually
shave, then I use a moisturizer five squirts. I
put it on, but I don't rub it in, I let it soak in. That's it.
Is that the only place you shave?
You know that's not the only place I shave! It's
not just a gay thing any more! A lot of straight
men trim themselves. I'm all in favour of it.
Did you have a you have a midlife crisis when you turned 40?
Not really. I think my crisis came at 30 I went
a little nuts and had a really good time. I'm not
having a midlife crisis, am I? Some people might
say that my thing for cars is my midlife crisis,
cos I like sporty cars, but I don't look at that as being a midlife crisis.
No, sporty cars are for picking up young men! Are
you looking for a younger man?
No, that doesn't appeal to me at all. I can
appreciate young me, but I prefer someone around
my own age. Scott's 44. He's already had his
midlife crisis. Last year, I said, "I'm buying
you a really nice motorcycle. The midlife crisis is over."
How would you feel if you discovered he was having a bit on the side?
This is my personal business, but if there's a
been a hump in the road, you ask yourself whether
you love the person enough having spent all
that time with them to work through the
difficulties in the situation. I'm not saying
something like that has happened, but are you
going to give up everything that you've worked
for, because of some silly little thing? I'm not
saying full-on affairs, but you know
Things happen. That's life. And whether you want
to freak out about it or be honest about it If a
couple's been married for 20 years and the
husband's busted snogging someone at a work
party, it's no excuse for a divorce. It's really not.*
Music Music Music is out on 24 November. John's
single What About Us, is out now.
pp. 90-93 <http://www.heatworld.com/>www.heatworld.com 22-28 November 2008
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Precious and rare all Love is, gender matters not.
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