Re: [torchwood] Torchwood episodes - comments
- I said:
> > >What are our parameters for spoilers?--- "Keith A. Glass" <salgak@...> wrote:
> > Colonel Mustard, in the Conservatory, with theHee. Are you sure it's not Miss Scarlet, in the
Library, with the knife? Or - no, wait, it was Uncle
Claudius who killed Hamlet's father!
Biggest mystery: Jack's timeline. As far as I can see,
the only thing we know for sure is that "Torchwood:
takes place after the Doctor Who episode "The Parting
of the Ways".
> > We ALSO know that it takes place after Season 2,Hmm. Yes. And there's an implication - isn't there?
> > as the Dalek-Cyberman War decimated Torchwood
> > One in London.
with the hand? - that Jack was in the UK at the time
of "The Christmas Invasion", only a few days later
than "The Parting of the Ways" for the Doctor and Rose
but who knows how much later that was for Jack?
> > There's1941. Yes.
> > ALREADY a possible retcon in progress: We
> > knew Capt. Jack was hanging
> > around WW 2 London with his Timeship, from Season
> > One of Doctor Who.
> > Yet he was ALSO commanding troops in Lahore circaWasn't 1944 mentioned as being when Estelle last saw
> > early 1900's, and he
> > took a lover sometime in the late 1930's/early
> > 1940s.
> > And how didPossibly. Definitely possible. Though that doesn't
> > Jack get back to our time ? SPECULATION: Jack
> > went back to at least
> > 1900, and has been going forward since then,
> > trying to catch up with the Doctor.
explain why Jack went back to c. 1900, or whatever
unspecified date previous to 1909, or how he got
there, or whether it was deliberate or accidental.
If he was in the UK previous to "Doomsday", as it
seems, why didn't Jack just go and visit Jackie at the
Powell Estates, and tell he he wanted to be put in
touch with Rose and the Doctor? - This question is
mostly speculative and rhetorical, since we won't know
till they tell us. And I have a few theories.
> > Which itself causes a problem: forScary idea.
> > the time he was pulling off the scam
> > which underlied "The Empty
> Child" and "The Doctor
> > Dances", he'd ALSO be around from the
> time-stranded version of Jack.
> > We saw the potential problems THERE, fromI have a theory that this is why the Doctor didn't go
> > "Father's Day".
back to get Jack on the game station, and why he's
avoided him ever since - that Jack's resurrection from
death is a sort of analogue to Rose saving Pete, it
isn't the way time should have gone, and the Doctor is
trying to mitigate the resulting time paradox by
staying away. Jack, of course, has no way to know
I have an alternate theory that I like better than the
idea that Jack has been around since c. 1900, which is
that Jack visited the 20th century extensively before
he met the Doctor, and maybe after, going back and
forth. He might have gone to Lahore in 1909 after he
met Estelle c. 1940.
Another possibility: that he was born on earth c.
1880 and the Lahore incident came before he'd taken up
Time Travel at all.
> > Rumor hasI'm looking forward to that.
> > it, the end-of-season finale will tie up these
> > ends and, at least
> > supposedly, re-connect Jack with The Doctor. . .
- --- In email@example.com, "Keith A. Glass" <salgak@...> wrote:
> Well. .. There's your problem right there. You're in Britain (grin)LOL, as a patriotic Englishman I have to take issue with that,
> Good beer, bad food.
especially as I have visited the States many times and you're food
isn't superior in any way that I've seen (or tasted).
I think the myth about British food being poor goes back to the war
when GI's were stationed in Britain at the time that rationing was in
full swing - of course there was nothing great on our dishes back then!
Things have moved on since rationing ended in the 1950's :-)
An interesting fact about food and world-wide eating habits: apparently
Eskimos find cheese disgusting!
Happy Thanksgiving from England,