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  • lookin2c@juno.com
    Greetings, Nice suggestion... Not practical however as it now requires the submission of a social security account number or the account will never be opened!
    Message 1 of 10 , Jul 25, 2005
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      Greetings,
       
      Nice suggestion... Not practical however as it now requires the submission of
      a social security account number or the account will never be opened!
      On top of that, when the check is deposited, unless signed otherwise, it becomes
      evidence of "income"... and will be given to the IRS upon their asking!
      Unless perhaps you are Brad Barnhill!

      Deo volente,
      Jim
       
      When someone who is honestly mistaken hears the truth,
      They will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest!
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      On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Martin Greer <nrtmarty@...> writes:
      easiest and fastest thing to do is open a savings account with this bank and then deposit the check into the savings account.  You may have to wait a few days for the check to clear but if the issuing CO. has its account there and the check is written on this account you may be able to make your withdrawal within minutes.  There is no charge for a savings account  and in fact you will earn a little interest for the deposited money. 

       
    • danny wayne
      Hello, My name is Dan and I have a check account with no SSN called a non interest bearing account. The Bank does not have to report that which pays no
      Message 2 of 10 , Jul 25, 2005
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        Hello, My name is Dan and I have a check account with no SSN called a non interest bearing account.  The Bank does not have to report that which pays no interest,  or income.


        >>
        >Nice suggestion... Not practical however as it now requires the
        >submission of
        >a social security account number or the account will never be opened!
        >On top of that, when the check is deposited, unless signed otherwise, it
        >becomes
        >evidence of "income"... and will be given to the IRS upon their asking!
        >Unless perhaps you are Brad Barnhill!
        >
        >Deo volente,
        >Jim
        >
        >When someone who is honestly mistaken hears the truth,
        >They will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest!
        >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      • Gary Cummings
        The banks I have spoken to would rather go to court than open a non-interest bearing checking account with no ssn. I wouldn t mind taking them there, but I
        Message 3 of 10 , Jul 25, 2005
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          The banks I have spoken to would rather go to court than open a non-interest bearing checking account with no ssn. I wouldn't mind taking them there, but I have no expertise in the matter and wouldn't want to blow it with some naive mis-step. The best advice I've gotten is "find a lawyer and sue them". Yeah, right.
           
           danny wayne <bootstrap55@...> wrote:

          Hello, My name is Dan and I have a check account with no SSN called a non interest bearing account.  The Bank does not have to report that which pays no interest,  or income.


          >>
          >Nice suggestion... Not practical however as it now requires the
          >submission of
          >a social security account number or the account will never be opened!
          >On top of that, when the check is deposited, unless signed otherwise, it
          >becomes
          >evidence of "income"... and will be given to the IRS upon their asking!
          >Unless perhaps you are Brad Barnhill!
          >
          >Deo volente,
          >Jim
          >
          >When someone who is honestly mistaken hears the truth,
          >They will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest!
          >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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        • Tim Costello
          Anonymous banking can be had. Using a Privacy Trust and an LLC. Up until pre-911 I could find banks that would open an account without a SSN. Post 911 and
          Message 4 of 10 , Jul 25, 2005
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            Anonymous banking can be had. Using a Privacy Trust and an LLC.

            Up until pre-911 I could find banks that would open an account without a
            SSN. Post 911 and the USA PATRIOT Act there is none that I can find.

            However...you may try www.e-bullion.com or www.emocorp.com.

            I am not sure why you would say that opening a bank account would cause
            the bank to send income info to the IRS if asked? I am not sure why you
            indicate it would be evidence of income. You could have had a garage
            sale and sold at a loss. You could have received a birthday present.
            Or traded some of your labor for some money. This in my book is not
            income. Check out www.losthorizons.com.

            Open the account, cash your check and close the account. Or..take the
            check to the bank issuing the check. They may charge you a buck or two
            to cash it...but then there is no record.

            Tim
          • Dave Miner
            I have 2 non-interest bearing checking accounts with no SSN or EIN. Just opened last month. I declared myself to be a non-US citizen and completed the Form
            Message 5 of 10 , Jul 25, 2005
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              I have 2 non-interest bearing checking accounts with no SSN or EIN.  Just opened last month.  I declared myself to be a non-US citizen and completed the Form W8-ben.  Got my accounts in minutes.
               
              But as long as you complete the standard bank forms, you are declaring yourself to be a US citizen and the bank will require you to offer your SSN or an EIN.
               
              Yours in financial freedom,
               
              Dave Miner
               
               


              From: tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Cummings
              Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:21 PM
              To: tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [tips_and_tricks] congratulations and a question.

              The banks I have spoken to would rather go to court than open a non-interest bearing checking account with no ssn. I wouldn't mind taking them there, but I have no expertise in the matter and wouldn't want to blow it with some naive mis-step. The best advice I've gotten is "find a lawyer and sue them". Yeah, right.
               
               danny wayne <bootstrap55@...> wrote:

              Hello, My name is Dan and I have a check account with no SSN called a non interest bearing account.  The Bank does not have to report that which pays no interest,  or income.

            • danny wayne
              The account I opened was for the purpose of getting vitamins with a check number over the phone to the health place where I purchase the vitamins. The bank was
              Message 6 of 10 , Jul 26, 2005
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                The account I opened was for the purpose of getting vitamins with a check number over the phone to the health place where I purchase the vitamins.  The bank was not going to give me an account without a SSN, I was sitting at the desk with the lady and ask if she ever heard of the mark of the beast?  Then I looked around at the other people in the bank in line to do banking.  I asked her if I had a number, you would let me do what these other people are doing.  So you are depriving me of the same right the other people have because I do not have a number.  I asked her if it sounded like, lest I have a number I can't do business with your bank.

                I got the account and when I want to buy vitamins I deposit the amount in the bank and do it all by phone to get vitamins.  This was 2 years ago.  I care not what is told the irs for I only deposit ferns, and ferns are not income.

                dan




              • Braveheart
                A Product Of Louisiana...Certified Cajun! My question is, why do any of y all even WANT to deal with the very evil bankster scum that is contributing to our
                Message 7 of 10 , Jul 26, 2005
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                  "A Product Of Louisiana...Certified Cajun!"
                   
                  My question is, why do any of y'all even WANT to deal with the very evil bankster scum that is contributing to our demise? Dealing with frns is bad enough, but at least I will not have to ask the "king's permission" at the bank for ANYTHING.
                  I either use fns or money order to pay bills. When you have that bank account, you become very much able to be sued, as you are NOT judgment proof. The object of this game is, IS to get as much out of the "system" as y'all can. Dealing with the banksters is "shaking hands" with The Beast. Dave, I mean NO disrespect as I have met you in NE Tenn when I lived there.....but I cannot understand ANY Patriot having a bank account,, even sans socialist security number.
                  FOR A FREE LOUISIANA~!
                  Shannon Champagne
                  List Owner

                                    
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:53 AM
                  Subject: RE: [tips_and_tricks] congratulations and a question.

                  I have 2 non-interest bearing checking accounts with no SSN or EIN.  Just opened last month.  I declared myself to be a non-US citizen and completed the Form W8-ben.  Got my accounts in minutes.
                   
                  But as long as you complete the standard bank forms, you are declaring yourself to be a US citizen and the bank will require you to offer your SSN or an EIN.
                   
                  Yours in financial freedom,
                   
                  Dave Miner
                   
                   


                  From: tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Cummings
                  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:21 PM
                  To: tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: Re: [tips_and_tricks] congratulations and a question.

                  The banks I have spoken to would rather go to court than open a non-interest bearing checking account with no ssn. I wouldn't mind taking them there, but I have no expertise in the matter and wouldn't want to blow it with some naive mis-step. The best advice I've gotten is "find a lawyer and sue them". Yeah, right.
                   
                   danny wayne <bootstrap55@...> wrote:

                  Hello, My name is Dan and I have a check account with no SSN called a non interest bearing account.  The Bank does not have to report that which pays no interest,  or income.

                • hobot
                  I ve had non SSN non interest checking for over a decade. Key issue is the W9 from asking for a number, but bank gives one of their own design which is fine as
                  Message 8 of 10 , Jul 26, 2005
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                    I've had non SSN non interest checking for over a decade.

                    Key issue is the W9 from asking for a number, but bank
                    gives one of their own design which is fine as the back
                    of IRS W9 instructions says a alerted from is OK as
                    long as similar info,
                    So I gave em my version with the deadly language of
                    resident and zip code or US citizen terms correctived
                    and printed up nice simlar form and gave bank that, but
                    with a note attached that said see attached form

                    W8 witch is form for forgieners to US/Fed Zone which I
                    am not part of, but again scine its terms are entrapping
                    on gov't provided one and back says can use altered from
                    I put see attached subsitute W8 form, witch has corrected
                    terms and used all 8's as a number for them to use so
                    computer would not baulk.

                    Later on adding signee's to this using same steps officer
                    stepped away from computer and lo behold the defualt
                    nine didit number was 888 88 8888 for them as well as
                    seems all non SS account get nummbered as.

                    I've had pure trust with non SS stock trading accounts
                    but they shut that down but checking is still runing.
                    I recieve checks form clients and its a convience to
                    them as well as me not to have to convert to substance
                    before use. There are other means to work around SS
                    bank account be various services but non are as cheap
                    as normal checking so decide where to draw you own
                    line in the sand eh.

                    hobot
                  • Robert
                    Hi All, I m not sure what the protocol is for letting people know about workshops but if anyone is interested in learning from a master in UCC, email me
                    Message 9 of 10 , Jul 27, 2005
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                      Hi All,

                      I'm not sure what the protocol is for letting people know about workshops
                      but if anyone is interested in learning from a master in UCC, email me
                      off-line and I will give you the info. This is a private meeting by
                      invitation only in Santa Clara, CA. Aug. 19-21.

                      Best,

                      Robert
                    • HMax121650@aol.com
                      This message is for Dan, I have had trouble opening an account without a SSN, what bank did you go to, and do you offer any advice in creating this account
                      Message 10 of 10 , Aug 7, 2005
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                        This message is for Dan, I have had trouble opening an account without a SSN, what bank did you go to, and do you offer any advice in creating this account
                         
                         
                        Hello, My name is Dan and I have a check account with no SSN called a non interest bearing account.  The Bank does not have to report that which pays no interest,  or income.
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