- I have just started doing research into law, the Constitution, sovereignty, etcetera. Some things talked about here I have come across, others I have not.Message 1 of 5 , Mar 31 2:00 PMView SourceI have just started doing research into law, the Constitution,
sovereignty, etcetera. Some things talked about here I have come
across, others I have not. Where is a good place to start to learn
how to defend myself in court? I recently ordered "Underground
Laywer" from the library.
Any other suggestions?
- Where is a good place to start to learn how to defend myself in court? Kenny: I have some. Go to the web pages highlighted in red below and check them out.Message 2 of 5 , Mar 31 2:15 PMView Source
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- ... Learn how not to go to court. A good place to START is STEP ONE. STEP ONE for anyone in government taking you to court is their taking of the oath ofMessage 3 of 5 , Apr 1, 2005View SourceOn Mar 31, 2005, at 2:00 PM, Kenny wrote:
> I have just started doing research into law, the Constitution,Learn how not to go to court. A good place to START is STEP ONE.
> sovereignty, etcetera. Some things talked about here I have come
> across, others I have not. Where is a good place to start to learn
> how to defend myself in court?
STEP ONE for anyone in government taking you to court is their taking
of the oath of office.
If you allow them to skip that first necessary step, who knows how many
other steps they'll try to skip?
Also, you might try reading the laws for your state that prescribe the
procedures your opponent must complete in trying to send you to jail.
Most everyone allows them to skip many steps in that process, thinking
that their opponents will "be fair".
For example, after most Californians permit their oppressors to act
without an oath of office, they then permit them to skip the
arraignment process. In this manner are most jailed Californians there
voluntarily. You should definitely concentrate on learning how NOT to
If you get a notice saying that if you fail to volunteer, you MAY be
arrested, realize this also means that you MAY NOT be arrested. Every
time I've ever waited to see whether or not I would be arrested, I was
not arrested. But if I really wanted to be prosecuted, they would
have done it had I volunteered. Don't promise to appear. If you
really have to appear, when you don't volunteer to do so, they'll come
and get you and save cab fare.
They've never offered to come and get me yet. But they've sent many
scary-sounding invitations. It took me only two times to realize that
had I not voluntarily accepted an invitation, I would not have had to
do a lot of typing to make them go away and leave me alone. So, don't
humor them. They have plenty of volunteers to keep them busy.
However, if you take this advice, you may never get any court
experience. If you disqualify a judge before he can act officially
(most people wait until AFTER they don't like what he's done!) you will
have less to complain about.
Make a list of things that have to or can happen in a case, and see if
you can put them in proper order. List 50 to 100 things. Learn how to
prevent or complicate each step your oppressor has to take. Make them
work and don't be easy prey. Old Indian saying: the best way to avoid
predators is to taste bad.
- In a message dated 4/1/2005 6:59:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, ... I agree but if you dont promise (on a complaint) via signature, they will take you to jail onMessage 4 of 5 , Apr 1, 2005View SourceIn a message dated 4/1/2005 6:59:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, frogfrmr@... writes:
Don't promise to appear
I agree but if you dont promise (on a complaint) via signature, they will take you to jail on the spot
- ... Maybe. It would have to be an arrestable offense. And isn t it better to suffer a little inconvenience and minimize a case s lost time and deny themMessage 5 of 5 , Apr 2, 2005View SourceOn Apr 1, 2005, at 9:55 PM, WW011@... wrote:
> In a message dated 4/1/2005 6:59:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,Maybe. It would have to be an arrestable offense. And isn't it
> frogfrmr@... writes:
> Don't promise to appear
> I agree but if you dont promise (on a complaint) via signature, they
> will take you to jail on the spot
better to suffer a little inconvenience and minimize a case's lost time
and deny them something that can be used as a complaint later, in a
case where they won't be able to produce a real complaint without your
cooperation? Besides, that's a great way to get the impersonator to
the jail without having to disarm and cuff him. And how would you
later "undo" your choice to provide them with something they can use as
a complaint by a rights-waiver? It would probably take more time with
less chance of being successful.
Ask yourself, in a mutual citizen's arrest, who is empowered to release
the accused? And when? Do you think it is up to the jailer??
Is the jailer in possession of firsthand knowledge that your charges
are baseless? He would have to have personal knowledge of the
existence of the signed and filed oath that your accused failed to
create. If he lets your accused go free, and jails you based upon the
belief that your accused indeed has the required oath of office, then
he becomes a co-conspirator, aider and abettor, and when he gets to
court he finds that he too is an impersonator without the required
oath. Does he have a nice home, wife and kids? He may not in a few
years! I sometimes ask, "will your wife and kids stay with you if you
lose your home over this?" One "sargeant" chose to sell his house and
move his family to Florida before my trial was dismissed for lack of a
What one really has to do is communicate a number of realities before
the perp has a chance to start writing, such as, "neighbor, I won't be
signing anything for you, and will arrest you for any crime committed
in my presence. I know that you do not have the required oath of
office on file (here, see if yours is in this folder...), and therefore
are not an officer as you claim, making any such claim a crime of
impersonation of an officer. Before you act in haste, would you like
to discuss it over a cup of coffee and a donut, or would you like to
part now, wishing each other a nice day?" If he gets to the point
where pertinent information is already going down on his paper, then
one has failed to object timely to his investigation, and one has
probably cooperated by providing information to one with no authority
to demand it, in other words, one has already waived rights. I'm
speaking for my locale (California) only at this point, as I do not
research every possible locale's situation. But here, with none but
impersonators to deal with, I like to remind the perp that his crime of
impersonation garners a more severe sentence than does the traffic
infraction of which he accuses me.
Ask yourself, "what are the odds this perp will continue after I've
handed him a constructive notice?" I've heard, "have a nice day!"
(three times) more than I've heard, "you're under arrest!" (zero