It doesn't matter whether it is public records, treaties or statutes,
when the Court takes notice, it must so reflect it on the record. If
the judicial notice is not reflected in the record then it is not at
issue. As far as understanding, clearly you are some wet behind the
ear, guru trained, youngin' who has been taught just enough to make
himself dangerous to yourself and others around you. When you have
been at this for more than 20 years, then you can talk about
understanding. I do. I've seen them all come and go, and I am still
here and I am having fun and the gummint lackeys that I face down
aren't. Those that thought up this birth certificate waga waga aren't
anymore. This stuff is still floating around because it is being used
by some follower, of a follower, of a follower of some 1980's guru that
is no long in the fight.
Furthermore this thread is talking about the birth certificate and
not a treaty or public statute. Unless it is your position that the
birth certificate is some sort of statute or treaty. It's not, it's a
public record and must be properly judicial noticed and noted on the
record before it can effect the outcome of a case.
That's why I usually stay out of these things, because too many
times, poster's that discuss this peripheral stuff ignore the subject
of the tread and try and interject that which was not a part of the
subject. You want to talk about statutes and treaties and judicial
notice of them fine, start another thread. I probably won't
participate, because they are the least of my concern. However, in
this thread we're talking about the birth certificate and its effect or
non effect. It's a non effect, unless you wish to inject it as an
issue into your own case. I don't do it, and it never becomes an issue.
It seems the ostrich strategy is
being supplemented by the shell game tactic. I said they are required
to take judicial notice of public statutes and treaties. You changed
that to judicial notice of public records. Public record evidence has
to be certified and entered into evidence for notice to be had of it.
Even then, facts are for the jury.