- Greetings sir, I have seen this outfit before and did not join for one simple reason: THE VERBIAGE USED IS NOT RESEARCHED AND IS SELF REBUTTING to anyMessage 1 of 3 , Aug 2, 2004View SourceGreetings sir,I have seen this outfit before and did not join for one simple reason:THE VERBIAGE USED IS NOT RESEARCHED AND IS "SELF REBUTTING"to any learned party who knows and understand such things!For instance..."Citizen", capitalized or not, now means: Subject of the US., Inc."of" means: belonging to; emanating from ; owned by; etc. See BLACK'S 5th.That alone destroys the probably [liberty] intent of the drafter(s) of thisdocument/paper/office!"Official Office of Constitution", my great aunt Gerties gazebo!Capital "P" People were/are the signatories on the Declaration of Independenceand NOT the original Constitution. NOR does it MEAN the GENERAL POPULACE!NEVER DID MEAN THEM EITHER! Try "people"![Dumb Question #1: How many "People" signed the original "Constitution forthe United States"?]Mr. Mike H. Novak reminds me alot of that other female attorney whose selfelected position in the "national militia" and her advice to assault D.C., couldhave gotten many good people killed, imprisoned or maimed for life!Whenever Gov't wants to destroy this "group", he has already given themall the ammo they need by his un-researched use of the American English language![Dumb Question #2: Is a sane man "insane" in an insane world?]I personally tend to ask this dumb question...: "By what Authority?"Self appointed again? Try being elected by the "Committee of the States inCongress Assembled"! Want their last know address?Or to put it another way: What is Mr. MHN's "reasonable basis" for his claim thathe can "establish" such a named group? Just like court, I need material evidenceto support his claim! Otherwise his "claim" is "unreasonable" and if he still adheresto it in the face of evidence to the contrary, I suggest he, and anyone else, readthe Blacks 5th definition of "Insane delusion"!
Jim for FISH [For Individuals Seeking Help]Blessed be the Lord my rock, that teacheth my hands to war,
And my fingers to fight. Psalms 144:1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:10:40 -0600 "Michael H. Nowik" <MNowik@...> writes:----- Original Message -----From: Michael H. NowikTo: George W. BushSent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:34 AMSubject: Official Office of Constitution and People of USA establishedOfficial Office of Constitution and People of USA established
- ... I always ask that question at the earliest opportunity, and thus disqualify the sent person who cannot articulate an answer. Sent person? Yes, they alwaysMessage 2 of 3 , Aug 7, 2004View SourceOn Aug 2, 2004, at 9:25 AM, Occupant Family wrote:
> I personally tend to ask this dumb question...: "By what Authority?"I always ask that question at the earliest opportunity, and thus
> Self appointed again? Try being elected by the "Committee of the
> States in
> Congress Assembled"!
disqualify the sent person who cannot articulate an answer.
Sent person? Yes, they always say, "just following orders, just doing
my job, just doing as I was told, etc. etc."
They have no real idea of what they are doing - they are in pursuit of
FRNs, so what does that say about them anyway?
I don't know where you are, but in California the federal citizens are
permitted to elect pretenders to office who never take the oath of
office required by the state's own constitution. The oath of office is
the mechanism by which lawful powers are lawfully transferred to the
elected candidate, giving him more "authority" than your average
neighbor. A person may choose to decline to serve even if elected.
All he has to do is refuse to take the oath. That is what most do.
Only today they know they can get away with collecting the paycheck
without anyone else complaining about it, due to a general state of
gross ignorance. Even Arnold failed to take the required oath on TV in
front of everyone. He blithely disregarded the requirements of Art.
XX, section 3 of the constitution he was pretending to uphold. Either
he never read it, or failed to comprehend it, like most other people
today. And nobody in the crowd said anything. I was hundred's of
miles away, or I would have. But then that crowd of pretenders does
not play a role in my life as it does in other people's lives. I don't
(or can't?) pretend well enough to play their games.
The point is, powers are not bestowed by election, only by agreement to
serve under the oath. The agreement cannot be imposed, but if one
fails to agree, one fails to obtain special powers. Get it? Yet all
around you you see people submitting to mere pretenders, which is not
bad in itself, it's their complaining about the results that bothers
me. I mean, if you're going to stick your foot in a bear trap, don't
whine about the pain in your ankle.
I see you scoff at being elected by the "Committee of the States in
Congress Assembled" as if you are aware of some other "authority" more
lawfully constituted. I've been looking for lawful authority in the
absence of fraud for over 30 years. I cannot wait to hear where you
have discovered it! I would like to personally congratulate the people
involved, if names and contact info can be given!
- In Reply: I currently live near Chattanooga Tennessee. I do not scoff at the Committee of the States... merely at those who believe they have any kind ofMessage 3 of 3 , Aug 9, 2004View SourceIn Reply: I currently live near Chattanooga Tennessee.I do not "scoff" at the Committee of the States... merely at those who believethey have any kind of "authority" over a free people absent their valid "election"by a knowing electorate. And they taking the Constitutionally prescribed "Oath"!I was personally elected to the "Committee of the States,In Congress Assembled", by the "electors" [Not voters!] in my precinct,in Michigan state, back in the late 80's. I served for well over10 years and am damn proud that I was dumb enough to bereeducated in the "Liberty Interest" of real freedoms.Have aided in the education of 1000's since that time. I have taughtin over 8 states and continue to do so to this day.Deo volente,
JimBlessed be the Lord my rock, that teacheth my hands to war,
and my fingers to fight. Psalms 144:1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 14:44:34 -0700 Frog Farmer <frogfrmr@...> writes:
> On Aug 2, 2004, at 9:25 AM, Occupant Family
> > I personally tend to ask this dumb question...: "By
> > Self appointed again? Try being elected bythe "Committee of the
> > States in Congress Assembled"!and thus
> I always ask that question at the earliest opportunity,
> disqualify the sent person who cannot articulate ananswer.
> Sent person? Yes, they always say, "just followingorders, just doing
> my job, just doing as I was told, etc. etc."They have no real idea of what they are doing - they are in pursuit of
>FRNs, so what does that say about them anyway?