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  • Pete Grzeskowiak
    FREEDOM OF INFO ACT FOIA & then recover in Federal suit under FOIA or the FRAUD provision listed in the civil cover sheet, ask for costs, time, attornies
    Message 1 of 14 , Aug 30, 2003
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      FREEDOM OF INFO ACT   FOIA & then recover in Federal suit under FOIA or the FRAUD provision listed in the civil cover sheet, ask for costs, time, attornies fess, filing fees, time spent, pens paper postage any & erveything this cost you, research use of computer & computer time;ie milk the cow FTG

      John Wilde <jpwilde@...> wrote:
      There is no law one way or another in any state that I am aware of.  However, the court's have long ruled that your
      fingerprints are your property or that you at least have a property interest in them.

          That provides you with 1 of 2 remedies to recover the prints they took and all of the copies.  If they were
      illegally taken then your remedy is replevin.  If they were taken under some legal pretext at the beginning but there
      is no legal or lawful reason to possess them now, then your remedy is detinue.

          Go read Koffler or Shipman on remedies at law.  What you must accomplish before suing in either replevin or
      detinue, even under today's modern rules of pleading, will be described in there.

      g'day
      John Wilde

      scott wrote:

      > If it is in Colorado, the Colorado Constitution states you can get your
      > finger prints and pictures returned to you.  You will have to read that and
      > then go to the department that took them from you and from there I don't
      > know?
      > Scott
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "joann" <joalaska@...>
      > To: <tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:33 AM
      > Subject: [tips_and_tricks] does anyone know.......
      >
      > > At one point in my life, I was arraigned under a federal charge of
      > 'Forcible
      > > Rescue'.
      > > I WAS  fingerprinted at that time.
      > > On the day of trial, after I turned down three different plea bargain
      > > 'offers' by the government,  the government asked that the case be
      > > dismissed, which it was.
      > > My question is....how can I find out if my fingerprints are still on file
      > > somewhere?
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    • Scott Hall
      Just saw a book on ebay. Thought some one might find it interesting.
      Message 2 of 14 , Aug 30, 2003
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        Just saw a book on ebay.
         
        Thought some one might find it interesting.
         
        There is no law one way or another in any state that I am aware of.  However, the court's have long ruled that your
        fingerprints are your property or that you at least have a property interest in them.

            That provides you with 1 of 2 remedies to recover the prints they took and all of the copies.  If they were
        illegally taken then your remedy is replevin.  If they were taken under some legal pretext at the beginning but there
        is no legal or lawful reason to possess them now, then your remedy is detinue.

            Go read Koffler or Shipman on remedies at law.  What you must accomplish before suing in either replevin or
        detinue, even under today's modern rules of pleading, will be described in there.

        g'day
        John Wilde

        scott wrote:

        > If it is in Colorado, the Colorado Constitution states you can get your
        > finger prints and pictures returned to you.  You will have to read that and
        > then go to the department that took them from you and from there I don't
        > know?
        > Scott
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "joann" <joalaska@...>
        > To: <tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:33 AM
        > Subject: [tips_and_tricks] does anyone know.......
        >
        > > At one point in my life, I was arraigned under a federal charge of
        > 'Forcible
        > > Rescue'.
        > > I WAS  fingerprinted at that time.
        > > On the day of trial, after I turned down three different plea bargain
        > > 'offers' by the government,  the government asked that the case be
        > > dismissed, which it was.
        > > My question is....how can I find out if my fingerprints are still on file
        > > somewhere?
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
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      • Dessie Andrews
        You have to contact the FBI, and to get your file, you need to give your fingerprints. ... From: scott [mailto:scott@wsgsite.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003
        Message 3 of 14 , Aug 31, 2003
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          You have to contact the FBI, and to get your file, you need to give your
          fingerprints.

          -----Original Message-----
          From: scott [mailto:scott@...]
          Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 12:28 PM
          To: tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [tips_and_tricks] does anyone know.......


          If it is in Colorado, the Colorado Constitution states you can get your
          finger prints and pictures returned to you. You will have to read that
          and then go to the department that took them from you and from there I
          don't know? Scott
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "joann" <joalaska@...>
          To: <tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:33 AM
          Subject: [tips_and_tricks] does anyone know.......


          > At one point in my life, I was arraigned under a federal charge of
          'Forcible
          > Rescue'.
          > I WAS fingerprinted at that time.
          > On the day of trial, after I turned down three different plea bargain
          > 'offers' by the government, the government asked that the case be
          > dismissed, which it was. My question is....how can I find out if my
          > fingerprints are still on file somewhere?
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        • Royce
          Mr. Wilde: Do you have a title on the remedies books you cite below? Royce
          Message 4 of 14 , Aug 31, 2003
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            Mr. Wilde:
            Do you have a title on the remedies books you cite below?
            Royce

            John Wilde wrote:
            There is no law one way or another in any state that I am aware of.  However, the court's have long ruled that your
            fingerprints are your property or that you at least have a property interest in them.

                That provides you with 1 of 2 remedies to recover the prints they took and all of the copies.  If they were
            illegally taken then your remedy is replevin.  If they were taken under some legal pretext at the beginning but there
            is no legal or lawful reason to possess them now, then your remedy is detinue.

                Go read Koffler or Shipman on remedies at law.  What you must accomplish before suing in either replevin or
            detinue, even under today's modern rules of pleading, will be described in there.

            g'day
            John Wilde

            scott wrote:

            > If it is in Colorado, the Colorado Constitution states you can get your
            > finger prints and pictures returned to you.  You will have to read that and
            > then go to the department that took them from you and from there I don't
            > know?
            > Scott
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: "joann" <joalaska@...>
            > To: <tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com>
            > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:33 AM
            > Subject: [tips_and_tricks] does anyone know.......
            >
            > > At one point in my life, I was arraigned under a federal charge of
            > 'Forcible
            > > Rescue'.
            > > I WAS  fingerprinted at that time.
            > > On the day of trial, after I turned down three different plea bargain
            > > 'offers' by the government,  the government asked that the case be
            > > dismissed, which it was.
            > > My question is....how can I find out if my fingerprints are still on file
            > > somewhere?
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
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          • John Wilde
            That s fine for the federal agencies, but most of us have had our finger prints taken by state law enforcement types. The FOIA does apply to them. The claim
            Message 5 of 14 , Sep 1, 2003
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              That's fine for the federal agencies, but most of us have had our finger prints taken by state law enforcement types.  The FOIA does apply to them.  The claim will have to be made against the state agency with an order that they retrieve all of the copies that they distributed.

              g'day
              John Wilde

              Pete Grzeskowiak wrote:
              FREEDOM OF INFO ACT   FOIA & then recover in Federal suit under FOIA or the FRAUD provision listed in the civil cover sheet, ask for costs, time, attornies fess, filing fees, time spent, pens paper postage any & erveything this cost you, research use of computer & computer time;ie milk the cow FTG

              John Wilde <jpwilde@...> wrote:
              There is no law one way or another in any state that I am aware of.  However, the court's have long ruled that your
              fingerprints are your property or that you at least have a property interest in them.

                  That provides you with 1 of 2 remedies to recover the prints they took and all of the copies.  If they were
              illegally taken then your remedy is replevin.  If they were taken under some legal pretext at the beginning but there
              is no legal or lawful reason to possess them now, then your remedy is detinue.

                  Go read Koffler or Shipman on remedies at law.  What you must accomplish before suing in either replevin or
              detinue, even under today's modern rules of pleading, will be described in there.

              g'day
              John Wilde

              scott wrote:

              > If it is in Colorado, the Colorado Constitution states you can get your
              > finger prints and pictures returned to you.  You will have to read that and
              > then go to the department that took them from you and from there I don't
              > know?
              > Scott
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: "joann" <joalaska@...>
              > To: <tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com>
              > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:33 AM
              > Subject: [tips_and_tricks] does anyone know.......
              >
              > > At one point in my life, I was arraigned under a federal charge of
              > 'Forcible
              > > Rescue'.
              > > I WAS  fingerprinted at that time.
              > > On the day of trial, after I turned down three different plea bargain
              > > 'offers' by the government,  the government asked that the case be
              > > dismissed, which it was.
              > > My question is....how can I find out if my fingerprints are still on file
              > > somewhere?
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
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            • John Wilde
              No, I don t. But if you look them up in a Law Library under the last names of Koffler or Shipman you will find them. They are not available at all on line.
              Message 6 of 14 , Sep 1, 2003
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                No, I don't.  But if you look them up in a Law Library under the last names of Koffler or Shipman you will find them.  They are not available at all on line.

                g'day
                John Wilde

                Royce wrote:
                Mr. Wilde:
                Do you have a title on the remedies books you cite below?
                Royce

                John Wilde wrote:
                There is no law one way or another in any state that I am aware of.  However, the court's have long ruled that your
                fingerprints are your property or that you at least have a property interest in them.

                    That provides you with 1 of 2 remedies to recover the prints they took and all of the copies.  If they were
                illegally taken then your remedy is replevin.  If they were taken under some legal pretext at the beginning but there
                is no legal or lawful reason to possess them now, then your remedy is detinue.

                    Go read Koffler or Shipman on remedies at law.  What you must accomplish before suing in either replevin or
                detinue, even under today's modern rules of pleading, will be described in there.

                g'day
                John Wilde

                scott wrote:

                > If it is in Colorado, the Colorado Constitution states you can get your
                > finger prints and pictures returned to you.  You will have to read that and
                > then go to the department that took them from you and from there I don't
                > know?
                > Scott
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: "joann" <joalaska@...>
                > To: <tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com>
                > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:33 AM
                > Subject: [tips_and_tricks] does anyone know.......
                >
                > > At one point in my life, I was arraigned under a federal charge of
                > 'Forcible
                > > Rescue'.
                > > I WAS  fingerprinted at that time.
                > > On the day of trial, after I turned down three different plea bargain
                > > 'offers' by the government,  the government asked that the case be
                > > dismissed, which it was.
                > > My question is....how can I find out if my fingerprints are still on file
                > > somewhere?
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
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