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Re: 15 States have petitioned withdrawal from the United States of Ameri

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  • Pond Dale
    People in a number of corporate states petitioning/asking/begging Obama to pretty please let them go has reached 21 or 22. The signatures are increasing
    Message 1 of 4 , Nov 12, 2012
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      People in a number of corporate states petitioning/asking/begging Obama to pretty please let them go has reached 21 or 22. The signatures are increasing rapidly.
      http://www.dailypaul.com/262715/15-states-start-petitions-to-secede-from-the-us

      There is a lively discussion going on about this at the above link.
    • Jeff L. S.
      This effort will fail because these people that are begging for permission to sucede from the union are U.S citizens. Not proper state citizens therefore have
      Message 2 of 4 , Nov 12, 2012
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        This effort will fail because these people that are begging for permission to sucede from the union are U.S citizens. Not proper state citizens therefore have no right and can only beg. The status of all of the states is that they are all corporations and children of the U.S They (the states) and not properly ratified any longer because all who reside within the state are U.S citizens.

        For this to even have a glimmer of hope of happening, each state must have a minimum of 60,000 state nationals. Thats what it took for a state to become a member of the union. 60000 state voters ( voting laws have changed between then and now) and at the time it was something like male land owners.

        Guess which state was the first to allow women to vote. Anybody? and why?

















        Wyoming
        because there were not enough voting men in the territory to enable the territory to become a member of the union.



        From: Pond Dale <dalesvp@...>
        To: tips_and_tricks@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 4:01 AM
        Subject: [tips_and_tricks] Re: 15 States have petitioned withdrawal from the United States of Ameri

         
        People in a number of corporate states petitioning/asking/begging Obama to pretty please let them go has reached 21 or 22. The signatures are increasing rapidly.
        http://www.dailypaul.com/262715/15-states-start-petitions-to-secede-from-the-us

        There is a lively discussion going on about this at the above link.



      • hobot
        This level of political action is just a type of protest action by those subdued by the Federalies. The last chance to get back independence was in the 90 s
        Message 3 of 4 , Nov 13, 2012
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          This level of political action is just a type of protest action by
          those subdued by the Federalies. The last chance to get
          back independence was in the 90's with Republic of Texas.
          if the movements get big and correct enough then Federal
          agent implants do stuff that can cause Waco like set ups.
          100's of 1000's got on the bandwagon in very public groups
          but the RT had its own non-usury money policy so was
          shot down to mere simmering now. Study the Whiskey
          Rebellion and Lincoln's War to know what to prep for if
          attempting to get out from under the East India Co flag.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company
          http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/flags_of_the_united_states_and_british_east_india_company/
        • Randy Garriss
          On Mon, 11/12/12, Jeff L. S.  wrote:  This effort will fail because ......  .   The reasons for failure are too many to list. I bet if a poll was taken
          Message 4 of 4 , Nov 13, 2012
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            On Mon, 11/12/12, Jeff L. S.  wrote:  "This effort will fail because ......" .
             
            The reasons for failure are too many to list.

            I bet if a poll was taken that 99.9% of those persons who have voted to secede from the union saluted the flag within the last year or two at the most and pledged allegiance to the United States of America.  One would think that the first necessary step would be to file a declaration of non-allegiance.

            I wonder what percentage of those that voted even considered that their vote constituted a statement of non-allegiance to some degree.

            Taking that step would mean bellying up and showing some kuhonas.  .  The implications of such a declaration would also require secession on April 15.  Don't hold your breath for that to happen.

            Probably the worst thing that will result from this vote will be the message it sends to Washington regarding how few the opposition is made up of measured by percentages of the total population. 

             
             

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