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  • David Toppin
    In MA, two laws govern speed limits. MGL 90-17 governs roads that have not had a traffic engineering and legal speed limit done, and MGL 90-18 covers roads
    Message 1 of 2 , Feb 12, 2008
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      In MA, two laws govern speed limits.  MGL 90-17 governs roads that have not had a traffic engineering and legal speed limit done, and MGL 90-18 covers roads that have.   If anyone is fighting a ticket in MA, you need to learn the difference.  I would also recommend joining the National Motorists Association at www.motorists.org  I am  a life member, and they have been instrumental in my mostly successful ticket fighting excursions.  I have had roads have the signs removed becausee of my cases.  On a 90-17 road you are only supposed to have a yellow "suggestive" sign for the speed limit.  If you have the white signs everyone is familiar with they have to have the engineering study from MAss Highway to back it up.  Many don't but the cops go on their merry way writing invalid and illegal tickets.  Most people just pay.  People should fight EVERY ticket they get.  In MA, you go in front of a magistrate first, and you usually lose there, you need to pay to appeal it to the judge, where you can cross examine the cop and beat the ticket

       

      David Toppin

       


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    • Frog Farmer
      ... That s how it is here in California, and most likely everywhere by now. Soon people might be needing their funds for life support after they ve lost the
      Message 2 of 2 , Feb 12, 2008
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        David Toppin wrote:

        > the cops go on their merry
        > way writing invalid and illegal tickets. Most people just pay.

        That's how it is here in California, and most likely everywhere by now.
        Soon people might be needing their funds for life support after they've
        lost the house and car, and might decide it's worth fighting back,
        especially to avoid being the last on their block to do so. The Ron
        Paul Revolution is spreading fast, and extends to topics like ours, ones
        that it appears the other candidates and their supporters are unable to
        even acknowledge much less discuss intelligently.

        > People should fight EVERY ticket they get.

        Absolutely! If everyone did that alone, even if they were all
        convicted, it would help. But the odds on getting convicted can be
        DRASTICLY REDUCED with some knowledge. First thing: be able to
        distinguish rights from privileges, then, don't waive any rights, and
        don't accept any privileges. Easy. Most folks are loaded down with
        privileges and cannot list 20 rights. Even for those timid types, 90%
        of convictions come from admissions and confessions. So, just shut up
        and you'll be way ahead of the crowd.

        > In MA, you go in front of
        > a magistrate first, and you usually lose there, you need to pay to
        > appeal it to the judge, where you can cross examine the cop and beat
        > the ticket

        Same here. Except for the paying part. We cannot "pay" anything here
        anymore (very little lawful money in circulation). So you make them
        waive any "fees" (if you can find anyone willing to put their name on
        the line after you file the current copy of their non-conforming oath
        into your case file.) It's really over in California. The only ones
        playing and paying to play are the statists and power cult believers.
        You really have to waive innumerable rights to be convicted and
        imprisoned in California. When I got here, I thought it had to be a
        police state with prisons all over the place and everyone seeming to be
        coming out of or going into one. But my actual experience has shown me
        otherwise, that it is a very free state. The apparent dichotomy is
        caused by the different treatment given to those who know the law and
        use it (1%??) versus those who believe propaganda about the law and act
        on that instead (99%??). I have experienced outcomes to incidents that
        were 180 degrees opposite from what I expected. Many times, in a spirit
        of independence and civil disobedience I've taken actions that I
        expected would get me arrested and mistreated. But nothing happens. I
        guess because I stand on my rights and the law every time. I don't
        think the law is being respected in these cases, but it seems that there
        is enough doubt introduced into the minds of the impersonating paycheck
        anticipators that they take my advice to prey upon less unpalatable
        victims.

        Yes, it's time for all good men to come to the aid of their country and
        "just say NO!" to socialism and fascism and tyranny. Don't take
        tickets, wake up sleeping magistrates at all hours, and disqualify
        everyone who contends against you. That will spin their wheels!

        Regards,

        FF
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