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Re: [tips_and_tricks] Re: 40.00 ILLEGAL TAX PROTESTERS

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  • BOB GREGORY
    I think the IRS does around 300 criminal prosecutions per year. That is a significant number, but not very large in comparison to the number of people who do
    Message 1 of 5 , Dec 6, 2007
      I think the IRS does around 300 criminal prosecutions per year.  That is a significant number, but not very large in comparison to the number of people who do not file tax returns.  An estimate by the IRS several years ago was that around 63,000,000 people who had an apparent requirement to file did not file.  That number is probably larger now.

      The principal tactic of the IRS is to intimidate.  Part of that intimidation is  making examples of people to keep the rest in line.  The IRS is quick to announce all of its wins, but never mentions its losses.  Becraft has wins and losses, just as most attorneys do.  A fine of $2,500 is no fun, but it's only around eight hours work for an attorney.  It would be interesting to know how much he made just from Tom Cryer (whose case he won) and Sherry Jackson (whose case he lost).  Some people strongly criticize Becraft, but they need to realize that if a person is not making mistakes and losing occasionally, he is probably playing it very safe or not willing to deal with the serious challenges.


      rebel382003 wrote:


      The sheer length of the list of tax resisters and the multitude of
      claims is amazing. And I am sure the number of cases identified is
      but a small fraction of the actual cases taken to court.

      Note also that [40.03[8] Attorney Sanctions] gives evidence that
      various presentations of claims challenging the existence of
      liability, and unacceptable trial dramatics, has resulted in
      sanctions. Becraft paid $2500 and may well be intimidated about
      having his license suspended for any further filing.


    • Yannis Mousouros
      Re: Right to due process memory refresher, with valuable legal a material for free. Good comments. It is worth reading this on the right to due process etc.:
      Message 2 of 5 , Dec 6, 2007
        Re: Right to due process memory refresher, with valuable legal a material
        for free.

        Good comments. It is worth reading this on the right to due process etc.:



        http://www.houstonlawreview.org/archive/downloads/41-4_pdf/book.pdf



        There must be, nevertheless, a similar source with legal tax protesters tax
        manual.

        Does anyone have any such information to contribute to the rest of us legal
        tax objectors?

        Yannis



        The sheer length of the list of tax resisters and the multitude of
        claims is amazing. And I am sure the number of cases identified is
        but a small fraction of the actual cases taken to court.
      • vivus_spartacus
        BOB GREGORY wrote: Some people strongly criticize Becraft, but they need to realize that if a person is not making mistakes and losing
        Message 3 of 5 , Dec 6, 2007
          "BOB GREGORY" <rhgusn@> wrote:

          "Some people strongly criticize Becraft, but they need to realize
          that if a person is not making mistakes and losing occasionally, he
          is probably playing it very safe or not willing to deal with the
          serious challenges."

          HMMM, So if the USDC Lacks ANY Grant of "Criminal" Jurisdiction /
          Authority to even Hear such Matters, it shouldn't bother Clients
          since what they "Don't Know Can't Hurt Them"???


          Or when their Attorney Fails so miserably in the Jury Selection
          Process that the moment same were seated, the U.S. Attorneys
          realized they had a Slam Dunk and therefore were able to
          successfully put forth a Massively Abbreviated Case against Sherry
          Jackson, the client should chalk it up to the Attorney wanting
          a "serious challenge" or not wanting to "play it safe"???

          When it comes to Attorneys (Officers/Friends of the Court) it is
          best to remember: "If you want something Done Right..."

          "Wisdom is the principal thing; Therefore get wisdom. And in all
          your getting, Get understanding. Proverbs 4:7


          "vivus spartacus"
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