RE: [tips_and_tricks] Public Library Access
- Legalbear [mailto:bear@...] wrote:
> I rejected the post on the basis that there was no substance to theMaybe he thinks all states are the same. Maybe he's a captive in the
> post, it appeared to be a "dredging post", and that the poster did not
> say what state he was in.
federal zone. Maybe he was in a state of confusion, or maybe a state of
satiation with pornography, or withdrawal. Hard to say...
> The poster replied with the following:Standards are the issue today. There's no shame on imposing standards
> "Dear editor , You are doing a disservice to those seeking answers and
> knowledge!!!!!!!!! Shame on you for imposing your standards on
on what is yours. Imposing standards is the way to win in court! And
> I have been building this group and monitoring itWhat a small percentage of all the Americans who could benefit for
> since 2002. I took it from 50 members to over 2500.
> I do not get paidYou know you love it!
> directly for doing it. To date I have reviewed more than 15,000
> I have the ability to simply delete your message when itDon't get too mad at him - he did go to a lawyer. And he has time for
> does not suit me. Instead, I took the time to tell you what you needed
> to do to make your message acceptable to my group. For this you want
> to impose shame on me??
pornographic studies. Pray for him!
> When you say, "You are doing a disservice toThe irony! :-)
> those seeking answers and knowledge!!!!!!!!!" all you are doing is
> making my point.
> I told you, "I replied in my rejection that I wouldI'd like to know what right was being infringed, besides a "civil right"
> allow his message when he put with it what research he had done and
> what tactics he was trying or thinking of trying.
(really just a privilege).
> For some reason itI try to save the day for free but it hasn't worked yet. People need to
> just does not sit well with me to let people troll the group with
> posts that they invest nothing in for free legal research or for
> somebody to ride in on their white horse and save the day for free.
make things complicated while they cannot seem to handle the simple
parts. "First things first." Just that "tip" alone helps me a lot.
> Here's another way to put it, if you are going to use Tips & Tricks toApparently some people are not comfortable with posting. I heard that
> ask for free help with your legal problem, please ask in a post that
> includes some substance including what state you are in; some facts
> that we can think about; some research that you have done; some
> reasoning that you have already gone through; and the details of what
> you have already tried and the results." Please try to understand; I
> am trying to get you, in your request for "answers and knowledge" to
> include some answers and knowledge IN YOUR REQUEST! Do you get it?? I
> want you to give out some "answers and knowledge" while requesting
> "answers and knowledge". What are you telling me?? Are you telling me
> in the above reply that you are above making a contribution to the
> group's knowledge? Are you saying that I am standing in the way of YOU
> getting some answers and knowledge?? If you are in the group to take
> only, do not bother posting again! Bear"
public speaking is people's number one fear, ahead of death! Court
involves both public writing AND speaking. So I think everyone should
use the list to share whatever tips and tricks for use in the legal
process, and try to overcome that revulsion which leads to an economy of
keystrokes. I would think that somebody needing help would tell us
everything that might provide a clue. I see court as only a stage in the
proceedings, and a stage I'd rather not have to reach before I win.
What gets me is how many off-list messages I get about list topics as if
I have time to write the equivalent of small books explaining what I see
as the obvious for one person at a time! I'm willing to volunteer time
for 2500 at a time, but one on one has to be special time, of which I
have little left that is free. I have so many real time demands here on
the farm everyday. I read and post while eating meals usually. And
here's my NUMBER ONE BEEF:
When I ask a question, nobody answers it, even while asking me for
answers. Or my question is deemed rhetorical or part of a teaching
process. If the answer is that obvious, I wonder why I don't know it...
Other than that I congratulate everyone for joining this list and being
among the very small percentage of netizens who care enough about
fighting for their rights, which is the only way they won't go extinct.
"You know what I'm talking about,
I've got my own life to live.
I'm the one that's got to die
When it's time for me to die,
So let me live my life
The way I want to." - Jimi Hendrix