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- My friend and I were talking about a bill that he had just voted on regarding teenage drivers. He is a Oklahoma State Representative. I asked why he voted the way he did, because it did not make sense to be voting on a bill regarding 16 year old drivers on commercial issues. You can't drive commercially until 18 years of age. He replied: "What are you talking about." I said: "You are not required to have a drivers license in Oklahoma unless it is for commercial purposes." He then corrected me and said I was wrong. I asked him, "Have you ever read the complete statute that you voted on. His answer, "No they present a part of the statute that needs to be changed or added too and we vote." I then asked him how you know how to vote when you have not read the entire statute that you are voting on. I asked him to pull his statute out and read to me where it stated that you had to have a license. He read a part off and then said, "There are you happy? I laughed and asked him to go to the definitions and read to me what a vehicle was. He answered its a freakin moving piece of metal with 4 rubber tires and a motor to make them go round and round you know what it is. I said yes I do know, but you do not, and you are the one voting on the issues. I then read him the definitions and he was speechless. I requested a meeting while they were still in session to talk about this issue, he told me to be ready in two days and he would put me in the spotlight for 5 minutes. I need to be able to pitch this in a way that sounds like it is Leaglebear or someone of eloquent speech and intelligence speaking. I have not one clue on how to go about explaining in five minutes that all they have learned on these issues has been fraudulent and incorrect, but at the same time, I would like to plant the seed in their head that they need to be reading the laws for themselves and not going off of something that they have been taught or told in passing; and furthermore there is no way you can vote on a subject unless you have read it thoroughly and entirely and know the definitions as well. I need a way to say all of this and not offend them so entirely that they stop listening to me altogether. All advice and help would be very appreciated.Thanks,Coby
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I have posted to you some possible responses to the question
you posed below.
I just thought of something else.
Laws cannot be enacted under the "police power" IF
THOSE LAWS, subvert or injuriously restrain under COLOR
of securing those rights.
What the Supreme Court is saying is this: THE RIGHT must
still be lawfully exercisable even if the citizen does not
comply with the alleged "law".
Rights are not dependent upon laws to be exercised
in a lawful manner.
Under the First Amendment RIGHT of redress, if you
don't have a "drivers' license" and there is no
public transportation to take you to the seat of
government, how do you exercise this right minus the
"privilege" of controlling your own mechanical locomotion
to the seat of government?
What you are restricted to phone calls or mail to
the seat of government?
"Conferred a political right or privilege"
Is not the right of travel one of these?
YICK WO v. HOPKINS, 118 U.S. 356 (1886)
at page 370, 371........................
Though not regarded strictly as a natural right, but as a privilege merely conceded by society, according to its will, under certain conditions, nevertheless it is regarded as a fundamental political right, because preservative of all rights. In reference to that right, it was declared by the supreme judicial court of Massachusetts, in Capen v. Foster, [ 29 Mass ]12 Pick. 485, 488, in the words of Chief Justice SHAW, 'that in all [118 U.S. 356, 371] cases where the constitution has conferred a political right or privilege, and where the constitution has not particularly designated the manner in which that right is to be exercised, it is clearly within the just and constitutional limits of the legislative power to adopt any reasonable and uniform regulations, in regard to the time and mode of exercising that right, which are designed to secure and facilitate the exercise of such right in a prompt, orderly, and convenient manner;' nevertheless, 'such a construction would afford no warrant for such an exercise of legislative power as, under the pretense and color of regulating, should subvert or injuriously restrain, the right itself.'
At 07:47 PM 2/28/07 -0800, you wrote:
My friend and I were talking about a bill that he had just voted on regarding teenage drivers. He is a Oklahoma State Representative. I asked why he voted the way he did, because it did not make sense to be voting on a bill regarding 16 year old drivers on commercial issues. You can't drive commercially until 18 years of age. He replied: "What are you talking about." I said: "You are not required to have a drivers license in Oklahoma unless it is for commercial purposes." He then corrected me and said I was wrong. I asked