- This is can be done. We have a small group in Ohio that has done just that. We help each other with legal issues as needed. We have meeting to keepMessage 1 of 7 , Jun 7, 2006View SourceThis is can be done. We have a small group in Ohio that has done just that. We help each other with legal issues as needed. We have meeting to keep organized and attend trials when time permits and report back to the group. Anyone can participate and we have had no trouble with UPL or abuse of our time. If a member has a legal issue we get together and plan a strategy and help prepare the documents. The effected party represents themselves but as many of us as possible attend the court proceedings. We all carry notepads and take notes for review. We have even held mock trials for those who don't like the idea of going to trial. We have had some good results from this, can't say it has been 100% but I do know when the judge sees 30 -40 extra people in the court room they seem to be on their best behavior. It is all about accountability of the judge and not what we do but what he/she may think we will do. They always seem to give more credit than we may deserve.These groups are springing up around the country and seem to be the legal systems biggest nightmare. There is much work to do to make a difference but we have to start somewhere so get one started in your area and it will grow in time.----- Original Message -----From: lkindrSent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 2:55 PMSubject: [tips_and_tricks] Can People Organize for Legal Self-defense?
.Could a group of people organize to help defend each other in court
etc in the event of violations of any member's rights by outsiders, or
especially by public office holders?
.Let's say a member of the group receives a traffic ticket
for "driving" without a license or insurance. Could the group then sue
the cop for false arrest? And, if a court holds a hearing or trial on
the charges without admitting lack of subject matter jurisdiction etc,
could the group sue the judge and prosecutor for fraud, misconduct in
.Or let's say a member is charged with failing to pay income taxes etc.
Could the group sue the IRS agennt for misconduct, making false charges
.Are there groups anywhere that do this kind of thing? Is there any
reason average citizens can't do this in order to help end corruption
in public offices? And wouldn't it be wise for such groups to promote
members to run for public office themselves?
.Good Day. LK