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  • Steven Levey
    Jun 26, 2013
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           I appreciate your taking the time explain the situation. I hope my motives are clear in using the language I have access to and that is, really, to explain myself as best I can given the understanding I have, which I know to be philosophically and metaphysically correct. In defense of the views I have proposed: there is an ancient School of thought, to which I am indebted and while it's language may differ from yours, it's "Sense" does not. I simply have access to what I have amassed in my mental library for the last 45 years, to deal with the issues in such discussion. However, having said this, I will take your advice, for no one has mentioned the texts you have offered and I have always taken the time to look into that which may enlarge upon my education as a human being. 


      From: Sherab Gyatso <sherabgyatso@...>
      To: tibetanbuddhistgroup@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:25 PM
      Subject: Re: [TBG] turning the wheel


      --- In tibetanbuddhistgroup@yahoogroups.com, Steven Levey <sallev1@...> wrote:
      > My friend
      >     Again, your perspective is valued, engrossing and interesting. And if there are those in the group who find fault with my attempt to explain that which is most illusive for language,
      We had these exact type of discussions here 10 years ago.
      As you follow this group better then myself, (I am just doing it for longest, but not that consistent). You know that there are very few people that actually post something, or ever did.

      I am one of the people that sometimes posts, not often enough, I feel.

      So, again, this group in it's founding is very much Guru Rinpoche, the Padmasambhava / Vajrayana / possibly or impossibly Dzogchen / Nyingma centred. With a very good level of inclusiveness from all other traditions and ways of thought that anyone coming in would wish to express.

      Within Nyingma there is a whole range of literature that a follower gets told about and introduced through very basic preliminary teachings on four contemplations. In these teachings when time allows there is often a very clear description of realms / beings.

      Now then if you are getting a drift here, dorjeshonnu is talking in a very interestingly worded English, but I can assure you, it is somewhat of a known element that he is expressing, not his "perspective".

      Within Nyingma tradition of vajrayana literature there is nearly complete description of how to put it, nearly everything...

      It is explained in a very direct and not illusive for language way.

      >>>I can only hope that they will raise questions.
      You are participating here for very long time, you should actually read Sogyal Rinpoche Tibetan Book Of Living and Dying to see what the founder of this group was very exited about in 1998.
      It is not illusive for words to express at all. It's just so that if you do not take the right book off the shelf with an open mind you will never find out what I am talking about. And will continue to conjecture based on something that you picked up for non-buddhist sources.
      So far I have seen totaly non mainstream understanding from you in all of the following:
      Deva, Realms of existence, karma, law, dharmapada

      Try Rangjung Yeshe online wiki... You owe it to yourself.


      On God realm, good article because it mentions a real great book:
      Words Of My Perfect Teacher.

      Here is a bit on karma:
      Here is a taste on:
      http://rywiki.tsadra.org/index.php/emptiness ...

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