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This Week In Doctor Who Spinoffs - June 19/20, 2009

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    This Week In Doctor Who Spinoffs June 19/20, 2009 - Volume 1, Number 25 The weekly guide to Sarah Jane Smith broadcasts, podcasts, and other matters. by
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      This Week In Doctor Who Spinoffs
      June 19/20, 2009 - Volume 1, Number 25
      The weekly guide to Sarah Jane Smith broadcasts, podcasts, and other matters.
      by Benjamin F. Elliott
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thisweekindoctorwho
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/torchwood

      Still waiting for an airdate for K9. Guess it's going to be a while.

      Sarah Jane Stations:

      UK:

      CBBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc http://www.bbc.co.uk/sja
      Sarah Jane Adventures repeats.
      Saturday 8AM, Sunday 5PM BST 10a. "The Mark Of The Beserker" pt 1 of 2
      Saturday 8:30AM, Sunday 5:30PM BST 10b. "The Mark Of The Beserker" pt 2 of 2
      Monday 5:15PM BST 12b. "Enemy Of The Bane" pt 2 of 2 (end of Monday repeat run)
      Saturday 27 June 8AM, 28 June 5PM BST 11a. "The Temptation Of Sarah Jane Smith" pt 1 of 2
      Saturday 27 June 8:30AM, 28 June 5:30PM BST 11b. "The Temptation Of Sarah Jane Smith" pt 2 of 2

      HONG KONG:

      ATV World http://www.hkatv.com/v3/world/world.html
      Saturday 27 June 8AM 5a. "Whatever Happened To Sarah Jane?" pt 1 of 2

      USA:

      SciFi http://www.scifi.com http://www.scifi.com/doctorwho
      DirecTV 244 DirecTVHD 244
      Dish 122 DishHD 122
      16:9 Letterbox. Sporadic repeats of Series 1. Series 2 has not been scheduled yet.
      Monday 9:30AM EDT 1. "Invasion Of The Bane" 90 minute slot
      Monday 11AM EDT 2a. "Revenge Of The Slitheen" pt 1 of 2
      Monday 11:30AM EDT 2b. "Revenge Of The Slitheen" pt 2 of 2
      Monday Noon EDT 3a. "Eye Of The Gorgon" pt 1 of 2
      Monday 12:30PM EDT 3b. "Eye Of The Gorgon" pt 2 of 2
      Monday 1PM EDT 4a. "Warriors Of Kudlak" pt 1 of 2
      Monday 1:30PM EDT 4b. "Warriors Of Kudlak" pt 2 of 2
      Monday 2PM EDT 5a. "Whatever Happened To Sarah Jane?" pt 1 of 2
      Monday 2:30PM EDT 5b. "Whatever Happened To Sarah Jane" pt 2 of 2
      Monday 3PM EDT 6a. "The Lost Boy" pt 1 of 2
      Monday 3:30PM EDT 6b. "The Lost Boy" pt 2 of 2

      AUSTRALIA:

      Nickelodeon Australia http://www.nickelodeon.com.au http://www.foxtel.tv
      29 June 7:30PM AEST 1. "Invasion Of The Bane" (61 minutes)
      30 June 7:30PM and 3AM AEST 2a. "Revenge Of The Slitheen" pt 1 of 2
      1 July 7:30PM AEST 2b. "Revenge Of The Slitheen" pt 2 of 2
      Projected:
      2 July 7:30PM AEST 3a. "Eye Of The Gorgon" pt 1 of 2
      3 July 7:30PM AEST 3b. "Eye Of The Gorgon" pt 2 of 2
      6 July 7:30PM AEST 4a. "Warriors Of Kudlak" pt 1 of 2
      7 July 7:30PM AEST 4b. "Warriors Of Kudlak" pt 2 of 2
      8 July 7:30PM AEST 5a. "Whatever Happened To Sarah Jane?" pt 1 of 2
      9 July 7:30PM AEST 5b. "Whatever Happened To Sarah Jane?" pt 2 of 2
      10 July 7:30PM AEST 6a. "The Lost Boy" pt 1 of 2
      13 July 7:30PM AEST 6b. "The Lost Boy" pt 2 of 2
      Series 2 premieres with a weeknight run - projected schedule based on 5 nights per week
      14 July 7:30PM AEST 7a. "The Last Sontaran" pt 1 of 2
      15 July 7:30PM AEST 7b. "The Last Sontaran" pt 2 of 2
      16 July 7:30PM AEST 8a. "Day Of The Clown" pt 1 of 2
      17 July 7:30PM AEST 8b. "Day Of The Clown" pt 2 of 2
      20 July 7:30PM AEST 9a. "Secrets Of The Stars" pt 1 of 2
      21 July 7:30PM AEST 9b. "Secrets Of The Stars" pt 2 of 2
      22 July 7:30PM AEST 10a. "The Mark Of The Berserker" pt 1 of 2
      23 July 7:30PM AEST 10b. "The Mark Of The Berserker" pt 2 of 2
      24 July 7:30PM AEST 11a. "The Temptation Of Sarah Jane Smith" pt 1 of 2
      27 July 7:30PM AEST 11b. "The Temptation Of Sarah Jane Smith" pt 2 of 2
      28 July 7:30PM AEST 12a. "Enemy Of The Bane" pt 1 of 2
      29 July 7:30PM AEST 12b. "Enemy Of The Bane" pt 2 of 2

      K9 - Coming later 2009. Network Ten in Australia and Jetix/DisneyXD in the UK are expected to air it. Other broadcasters unknown. 26 episodes in this first batch.

      ONLINE RADIO SHOWS/PODCASTS:

      This section is always open to discovering new Doctor Who/Sarah Jane/K9/Torchwood material of note. If you think your webcast/podcast (or somebody else's) belongs in this section, e-mail me.

      Doctor Who: Podshock http://www.gallifreyanembassy.org/vortex
      Live Talkshoe broadcasts - http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/23358
      call in number (724) 444-7444 call id 23358
      1) Home to the longest continuously running weekly-ish international Doctor Who chat show done in podcast format. Hosted by Louis Trapani, Ken Deep, and James Naughton, with frequent contributions/co-hosting by Dave AC, Mike Doran, and a cast of many. There is a feed for studio shows and a feed for live shows.
      2) Also home to the Sonic Newsdriver, Louis Trapani's periodic rundown of new Doctor Who news.
      3) Also home to the Hitch-hiker's Guide To British Sci-Fi, a podcast covering a mix of shows, including Doctor Who.
      Current episode:
      -Podshock Episode 153 - Lots of news and feedback. James was back. This Week In Doctor Who got a mention, as the column now appears on the Gallifreyan Embassy site among other places.

      Radio Free Skaro http://www.radiofreeskaro.com
      The 3 Canadians (Warren, Steven, Chris) get together on the weekends for about an hour or more to discuss the latest in Doctor Who, Torchwood, and Sarah Jane in a fairly amusing manner. When one is away, the 4th Canadian (Katrina) will play.
      Current episode:
      #145 - "The Lament Of Steven" - Steven Schapansky has always thought of himself as the calm member of the Radio Free Skaro insane asylum. Then the gang did a commentary on the episode Father's Day. And well - everything changed ....
      Coming Soon:
      #146 - "Insert Jokey Title Here" - Due to little editing time I'm not going to speculate on what the RFS team should call the episode. Since they are looking at The Empty Child, it might be interesting if one of them watches the CBC print while one watches the DVD print. Afterwards get on the phone with SPACE, the CBC print was used by SciFi, BBC America, and the PBS syndication deal. If SPACE doesn't know to insist on a fixed version, no doubt they will get stuck with it too.
      And on Sunday July 26:
      Commentary on "Planet Of The Dead", scheduled by coincidence just a few hours after SPACE's premiere of the episode in Canada and just a few hours before BBC America's premiere of the episode in the USA.

      DWO Whocast http://www.thewhocast.com
      Trevor from Australia and Marty from the UK talk Doctor Who with themselves, others, and teddy bears dressed as doctors. Now with a rock version of the opening theme, the Whocast continues to ask the questions that pop in to their heads. Regular correspondent - James. Frequent guest - Michael of the Tin Dog podcast.
      Current episode:
      #124 - The Whocast team review some things. First - these hosts, like Michael of Tin Dog Podcast, had bad experiences with Delta And The Bannermen in the past. As the DVD release comes, they watch to give a review. Er, their reaction is somewhat different to Michael's. Meanwhile, the Big Finish Companion Chronicle The Mahagony Murders grabs their interest.

      Tin Dog Podcast http://www.tin-dog.co.uk
      UK based podcast looking at the latest in Doctor Who, Torchwood, or Sarah Jane Adventures. New episodes ever 2 weeks or so.
      Current episodes:
      #92 - Delta And The Bannermen. 1987 - The Tin Puppy is horrified by the story Delta And The Bannermen. Then his Betamax fails to record the story, allowing Tin to forget the story for 22 years. 2009 - with the release of the DVD, Michael returns to face a story that scared him (for the wrong reasons) the first time. Does the memory cheat? If the tension is too great, the iTunes descriptions gives away his reaction.

      CIA - Cultdom In Audio http://ciashock.podomatic.com
      Live Talkshoe broadcasts http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/30659
      call in number (724) 444-7444 call id 30659
      West, Dave AC, Colin, and other Doctor Who fans liked the live Doctor Who: Podshocks so much that they wanted to keep talking afterwards. The resulting show covers Doctor Who, anything else sci-fi related, and can go wildly off in all directions. Chats open 15 minutes before the scheduled start time.
      Current episode - 94. Superheroes Run Amok!
      Upcoming episodes (titles and topics subject to change):
      Sunday 2PM EDT/11AM PDT/7PM BST - 95. Bring A Book
      28 June 2PM EDT/11AM PDT/7PM BST - 96. The Man Behind The Curtain
      and on Sunday 26 July - the real 100th episode. How does a show like this celebrate its 100th episode? We'll find out.

      Two Minute Time Lord http://twominutetimelord.com
      A bite-sized commentary and revew show. Host Chip's interest was rekindled by the 2005 revival. He believes in balancing old fandom and new viewers, respect for the past and breaking the rules. He tries to keep his pontifications to 120 seconds, because we're ALL in a hurry these days.
      Current Episodes:
      #30 - Is It Time For A Religious Companion? In the first of Chip's 3 part series of controversial topics, Chip looks at religion and Doctor Who companions. Personally (as a Presbyterian), I think Steven Taylor was a Protestant, either Anglican or Methodist.
      #31 - The Polyamorous Doctor. Love and the Doctor. In the second of Chip's 3 part series of controversial topics - could the answer to the Doctor's love issues be that he simply loves multiple people romantically at the same time?
      Future - #32 will have something to do with politics, as the 3 controversial topics were religion, sex, and politics.

      Staggering Stories http://www.staggeringstories.net
      A wild, wandering podcast with Doctor Who and the other flavours of the moment winding together roughly once every 2 weeks. The website's main focus is on stories collected through the years. They like Daleks and Pertwee's head, don't they? (Disclaimer - I wrote a Mr. Dalek story for them, and they published it. I'm infiltrating all these podcasts and sites. Bwa-ha-ha.)
      Current:
      Episode 47 - "When Assassins Go Deadly" - Andy, Adam, Keith, Fake Keith, and Jean look at the DVD release of the famous Tom Baker serial The Deadly Asassin. Ashes To Ashes is getting to them. A choose your own adventure game fails to get out of hand, much to everyone's surprise. And other stuff that looks odd on the page but has caused several listeners to crash their cars over the years.
      Coming soon - Episode 48. "When An Old Member Of The Team Starts Another Show" - well, whatever title the episode has, it was recorded days ago and should go out by Monday.

      The Flashing Blade Podcast http://www.flashingblade.org.uk
      Tony Gallichan returns to podcast land with new podcaster Jo! to look at Doctor Who and matters of interest. Tony grew up with UK fandom and knows all the cliches. Jo! - didn't. Flashing Blade wants to be known as the podcast that would like a nice cup of tea.
      Current episode - 2. Jo! and the Tony begin a look at Big Finish with the 8th Doctor audio "Hothouse". A look at classic Tom Baker story "City Of Death" also ensues. Debate over Ashes To Ashes Series 2. And Planet Of The Dead - have we finally found reviewers who like it? Er, no.

      The Minute Doctor Who Podcast http://web.mac.com/backintheussr6/The_Minute_Doctor_Who_Podcast/Podcast/Podcast.html
      Video (sometimes just audio) podcast looking at Doctor Who projects. Episodes are usually under 5 minutes long.
      Current episode - 16. Video installment. Luke exposits that Planet Of The Spiders was not the last Jon Pertwee Doctor Who story. Nor was The Five Doctors or Dimensions In Time. So, if Pertwee was not in Pertwee's last story, which story was it. Luke solves the confusion in your minds.

      Doctor Who Review Today http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/22756
      Live editions Late Fridays 1AM EDT/10PM PDT/6AM BST every couple of weeks
      Robert Carrie King reviews Doctor Who topics (DVDs and news, mostly) on this Talkshoe program. Frequent cast member on CIA: Cultdom In Audio.
      Most recent episode - June 12/13. Episode 36. The Missing episodes of Doctor Who and, from new Who, The Impossible Planet.

      The Tennantcast http://tennantcast.com
      Kelsey, Kari, and friends get together to dish on the latest David Tennant news. And at least for 2009, that still includes Doctor Who. They answer Chip's thoughts about younger podcasting - these are the youngest Who-related podcasters I know of. Their current plan is to do an episode each week, as they are enthused by their topic and believe that practice makes better podcasts.
      5 - The Rickcast. A somewhat shorter episode, as talk on David Tennant melds into a talk on Alan Rickman. Cake and giddiness ensue. Note - on iTunes this was listed as episode 4. Episode 4 was also listed as episode 4.

      Keeping an eye out - still no sign of the next episode. Hmm.
      The Wailing Fangirl http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/22228
      Samantha (Romana 2) explores Doctor Who and fandom in Australia, sometimes with the aid of the ladies of the Gallifreyan Time Love Brigade. Frequent cast member on CIA: Cultdom In Audio.
      Current episode - 8. A look at the First Doctor's Era.
      Coming soon - they were planning to gush poetically when Planet Of The Dead arrived. Planet has aired in Australia, so you never know when the Gallifreyan Time Love Brigade will strike.

      A Podcast Of Impossible Things http://podcastofimpossiblethings.blogspot.com
      Cardiff-based Doctor Who fans get together to discuss the latest Doctor Who and do a full length commentary on new Doctor Who episodes.
      Current episode:
      Planet Of The Dead - the commentary.

      Bigger On The Inside http://www.earth-2.net
      Mike and Dan decide to do their own podcast exploring each Doctor Who story in broadcast order. It is a very different style from Jonathan's. Again - can they pull it off? Part of the Earth-2 family of podcasts. Warning - explicit language (swearing). If your headphones leak any sound at all - do not listen at work.
      Current episode - 15 - The Celestial Toymaker and The Gunfighters. Our hosts reach the two stories where Dodo was actually given plotlines. Good for Dodo. Was it good for the stories?

      ****Alas, poor Whovian Quest
      A Whovian's Quest http://www.whovianquest.com
      Jonathan Rainer is podcasting his experiences as he watches Doctor Who. In original broadcast order. From 1963. Without a gap. Can he pull it off?
      The Whovian Quest website is offline, and no new episodes have arrived in months. I have enjoyed the show, and really wanted to hear it get through the series. Does anybody know if Jonathan is continuing?

      Hoo On Who http://hooonwho.com
      Fan reviews of recent Doctor Who DVDs by David Hooie, frequently with a guest co-host.
      Current episode - #10. Pyramids Of Mars, reviewed with guest host James Naughton of Doctor Who: Podshock. Now all 3 official Podshock hosts have appeared.

      Tim's Take On ...
      Tim Drury's podcast on various issues. Still checking it out at press time. Available on iTunes.

      The Big Finish Podcast http://www.bigfinish.com/podcast
      Big Finish podcasts at least once a month to discuss their Doctor Who and other projects (Sapphire and Steel, Stargate (!), Dark Shadows, Bernice Summerfield, etc).
      Current episode - May magazine episode. Nicholas Briggs updates us with the newest information from Big Finish about their present and future.

      Tachyon TV http://www.tachyon-tv.co.uk
      Irregular and irreverant podcast looking at the world of Doctor Who with a funhouse mirror and coming out the other side holding a plush toy that wasn't really the one you wanted but you'll keep it anyway because you can give it to your girlfriend to impress her. It's that kind of show.
      Current segment - a short appeal by "Rula Lenska".

      MMM Commentaries/Fantragic http://www.mmmcommentaries.com
      Roving Australian podcasting gang. Commentaries on Doctor Who episodes, Star Wars films, some Stargate stuff, and others. The Frantragic episodes look at Doctor Who and other sci-fi news. Fantragic episodes are on a different iTunes feed from MMM Commentary episodes.
      Current episode - commentary on the 2008 movie of Iron Man.
      Current Doctor Who episode - The Curse Of Fenric - DVD Extended Version.
      MMM noticed that no commentary was done for the recut movie version of The Curse Of Fenric on its DVD set either. So MMM does their own, along the line of their recent commentary for Battlefield's DVD Extended Version.

      The Two Doctors http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thetwodoctors
      call in number (718) 664-9807
      Jim Iaccino and Kenn Gold look at the latest SciFi broadcasts in the US, with emphasis on fitting in Doctor Who, Dollhouse, Smallville, Supernatural, Fringe, Torchwood, and the other big scifi shows of the moment. Everything is based on US premiere dates rather than UK. Approximately 90 minutes per episode. Show airs live with a text chat and can be downloaded later.
      Next episode - Late Sunday Midnight EDT/9PM PDT/Monday 5AM BST

      TV Talk Radio http://blogtalkradio.com/shaunomacradio
      Weeknights 6 to 8PM EDT (3 to 5PM PDT) [Friday 7PM EDT/4PM PDT]
      Shaun O'Mac Daily (of the Jericho "nuts" campaign) hosts a daily 2 hour show covering all things TV. Doctor Who is sometimes discussed in the 2nd hour of the Friday show with Two Doctors co-host Kenn Gold. Listen and chat live through the website with archives appearing right after the show finishes.

      PBS Stations With Doctor Who Rights That Could Air Again:
      A - BOUGHT SERIES THREE: (rights expire at date unknown)
      B - BOUGHT SERIES TWO: (rights expire March 31, 2010)
      1) UNC North Carolina 58.1,17.1,30.1,4.1,36.1,33.1 http://www.unctv.org
      Charlotte DirecTV 58,892 Charlotte Dish 4,8662
      Greenville, SC DirecTV 33,892 Greenville, SC Dish 4,8190
      Norfolk, VA DirecTV 2 Norfolk, VA Dish 2,7271
      Florence, SC DirecTV 31 Florence, SC Dish 31,7845
      Greenville, NC DirecTV 25 Greenville, NC Dish 19,7737
      UNC's third run of Series 2 is airing on its UNC-ED digital cable channel. UNC has the right to air Series 2 for one additional cycle beyond that.
      2) KCPT 19.1 Kansas City, MO http://www.kcpt.org
      Kansas City DirecTV 19 DirecTVHD 19 Kansas City Dish 19,8436
      KCPT has the right to air Series 2 two more times.
      3) KVCR 24.1 San Bernadino, CA http://www.kvcr.org
      Los Angeles DirecTV 24 Los Angeles Dish 24,8014
      KVCR has the right to air Series 2 two more times. While KVCR's main viewing area is east of the Los Angeles area, it is considered in the LA Designated Market Area and both satellite services carry it as a Los Angeles local station.
      4) West Virginia Public TV 33.1, 24.1, 42.1, 9.1 http://www.wvpubcast.org
      Charleston DirecTV 33 Charleston Dish 33,7321
      Clarksburg DirecTV 24 Clarksburg Dish 24,7915
      West Virginia Public TV has the right to air Series 2 another 2 times.

      Other stations that are not currently airing Who or Sarah Jane but may still have rights:
      1) HUNGARY (airing as Ki Vagi, Doki?) - Cool TV http://www.cooltv.hu
      Series 2 completed.
      RTL Klub http://www.rtlklub.hu http://doctorwho.gportal.hu
      Series 2 Repeat Run halted, it appears.
      2) JAPAN - BS-2 http://www.nhk.or.jp/bs Series 1 and 2 Completed.
      NHK 3 http://www.nhk.or.jp Series 1 and 2 Completed.
      3) ISRAEL - Yes Stars http://www.yes.co.il
      http://www.yes.co.il/Content/MoviesAndSeries.aspx?world=ser&cell_id=channel_22
      4) UKRAINE - ICTV
      5) BELGIUM - LaDeux http://www.ladeux.be - all episodes dubbed into French - Series 3 completed.
      6) NETHERLANDS - Nederland 2 http://nederland2.nl - Series 2 completed.
      7) DENMARK - DR 1 http://www.dr.dk/tv Series 1 Repeats Completed.
      8) FINLAND - TV2 http://www.yle.fi/tv2 - No additional airdates at present
      9) NORWAY - NRK3 http://www.nrk.no http://www.nrk.no/programmer/sider/doktor_who
      Series 1 repeat run completed.
      10) SOUTH AFRICA - SABC 2 http://www.sabc2.co.za/portal/site/sabc2
      The Sarah Jane Adventures Series 1 - not on schedule.
      BBC Entertainment South Africa http://southafrica.bbcentertainment.com http://www.dstv.com
      Doctor Who Series 3 completed. Next airdate unknown.
      11) POLAND - TVP1 http://www.tvp.pl - Repeat run completed.
      12) SWEDEN - SVT 24 and SVT HD http://www.svt.se
      13) GREECE - Skai TV http://www.skai.gr - Between seasons.
      14) ICELAND - RUV http://www.ruv.is - English with Icelandic subtitles - Series 1 and 2 completed.
      15) TURKEY - Cine 5 http://www.cine5.com.tr
      16) THAILAND - Channel 7 http://www.ch7.com
      17) ITALY - RAISAT Smash http://www.smash.raisat.it
      Sarah Jane Adventures Series 1 - dubbed into Italian. Pan & scan 4:3 image. completed run?
      18) NEW ZEALAND - UKTV New Zealand http://www.uktv.co.nz http://nzdwfc.tetrap.com - Series 2 completed.
      Prime TV http://www.primetv.co.nz http://nzdwfc.tetrap.com 16:9 digital; 4:3 pan and scan analog.
      The Waters Of Mars - airdate unknown.
      19) AFRICA/MIDDLE EAST - Showtime Arabia http://www.showtimearabia.com
      ShowSeries 1 (all airings 2 hours earlier on ShowSeries 1 Extra) - Series 3 Encore completed.
      20) DUBAI - Dubai One http://www.dmi.ae/dubaione/default.asp
      More info needed. Doctor Who was seen airing on this station over Christmas.
      21) ROMANIA - TVR2 http://www.tvr.ro - Series 3 completed.
      22) FRANCE - France 4 http://www.france4.fr - Series 4 completed.
      23) SOUTH KOREA - KBS2 http://www.kbs.co.kr http://www.kbs.co.kr/2tv/enter/doctorwho/index.html
      Primary language Korean, English language as secondary audio. 4th series completed.
      24) SPAIN - SciFi Spain http://www.scifi.es http://www.plus.es - Series 1 and 2 repeat run completed.
      25) GERMANY - SciFi Germany http://www.scifi.de Series 1 and 2 repeats. Dubbed in German.
      26) CANADA - BBC Kids http://www.bbckids.ca - Next airdate for Classic Who unknown. Next airdate for Sarah Jane Adventures unknown.
      27) UK - BBC HD http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbchd - home of HD versions of Doctor Who and Torchwood episodes. None scheduled.
      BBC Radio 7 http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio7 - available via UK digital radio, UK digital TV, live streaming worldwide via Windows Media Player and RealPlayer, archived one week via iPlayer (inside the UK) and RealPlayer (all over the world) - next show airdate unknown
      28) CROATIA - HRT2 http://www.hrt.hr - Series 3 completed.
      29) AUSTRALIA - ABC1 http://www.abc.net.au/tv http://www.sfsa.org.au 16:9 widescreen digital, 14:9 cropped letterbox analog.
      The Waters Of Mars - airdate unknown.
      30) SWEDEN - TV4 Science Fiction http://www.tv4.se http://www.tvplaneten.se
      Digital SciFi station. Classic Who completed for now.
      31) IRELAND - TV3 http://www.tv3.ie - Has previously aired Series 1, 2, and The Runaway Bride.

      Thanks for reading. Until next week, take care.

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