Re: [thewire] Re: was Osama Bin Laden interviewed for the new issue?
- holy hmmm...maybe you should stay out of politics too.
i really dont know what angle you are trying to take
on DS comments as it seems to me that you are making
some rather blanket "on the surface" idiotic comments
the one thing that watching the 3000 ppl die first
hand has taugh me (atleast) is that death and human
suffering work and are played out unfort on many
different levels, and debate on this one event must be
seen a greater context (if only this was the norm, but
who can change humna nature).
to condemn someone's "overtly simple ideas" with the
ones that youve transplanted (which from these seats
seem equally simple), does nothing to further the
discourse of discussion that DS in engaging in..althou
i havent read the article so i wont comment on his
do we even need a greater discourse? that remains to
be seen. 3000 ppl have died. not alot will change that
at the end of the day
at one point during the various subway anthrax and
bomb threats that were happening here in the city
after 9-11, i contemplated carrying a card in my
wallet asking that no wars be fought in my name should
i be killed. a rather macabre take on current events,
but something that i thought would add to the
discourse in the event of my death from another
we talk about avenging the death of the dead, but are
we even sure that the dead would want their deaths
avenged? for they cannot speak.
so if youre goin to start a discussion on these highly
topical points, please take the time to succinctly
explain your postion rather than throw a bunch of "hot
button" type phrases together so we can get an idea of
what youre trying to say.
cause right now, i for one am totally lost.
--- gradyfinklemyer <gradyfinklemyer@...>
> Here's another stupid misreading from Sylvian's__________________________________
> World Citizen single-
> "And the buildings fall in a cloud of dust,
> and we ask ourselves how can they hate us,
> well when we live in ignorance and luxury,
> while our superpowers practice puppetmastery"
> That is really crass and simplistic, and "stupid". I
> think David
> should stick to cod-zen and give up on the politics.
> It is almost
> embarassing. And this is coming from a long time
> fan. Maybe all of
> the fucking morons who are so into bashing the U.S.
> nowadays (no, I'm
> not pro-Bush or a yahoo superpatriot) should realize
> that all of this
> stems from what event? When some religious fucks
> decided to kill 3000
> people? (Oh, but they'll have thousands of virgins
> in Heaven now,
> won't they? Praise Allah! ha!!!) I'm sure when they
> were planning the
> attack on WTC they were saying to themselves, "its
> because they live
> in ignorance and luxury." And even if that was the
> case, it's sure a
> damn good reason! arf arf
> --- In email@example.com, Bill Ashline
> > On 1/7/04 2:33 PM, "gradyfinklemyer"
> <gradyfinklemyer@y...> wrote:
> > > "On a page in history the seeds were sown for
> the beginning of the
> > > end of the American empire." Came across this
> quote in the new
> > > and my mouth dropped open. I didn't realize
> Osama was being
> > > interviewed for The Wire. Oops, it was David
> Sylvian. Hey,
> > > congratulations on uttering the stupidest words
> of the issue
> > Stupid misreading of David Sylvian.
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- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Jim Flannery <newgrange@t...> wrote:
> Thursday, January 8, 2004, 4:24:00 PM, one spoke:ireally like that guy George Lakoff's book Women, Fire and DAngerous
> (There's a great interview w/ Berkeley prof. George Lakoff on this
> subject here:
Things. I had to read it for a project I was doing last year and
found its basic premise that category is an artificial concept
I think that's the basis of this framing thing he's talking about in
that interview too.