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  • Daniel DiMaggio
    My favorite description of Bailey s playing was something like he learned how to play guitar so well that he decided to pretend he couldn t play at all .
    Message 1 of 35 , Dec 9, 2003
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      My favorite description of Bailey's playing was something like
      he "learned how to play guitar so well that he decided to pretend he
      couldn't play at all".


      Daniel



      -----Original Message-----
      From: noblegasesuk [mailto:noblegasesuk@...]
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      To: thewire@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [thewire] Re: derek bailey



      Well, I guess I should have put "wrong" in quotes.

      I was talking to Ben Hanna, of Grandpa's Ghost, today and I said that
      in Bailey's playing a lot of the time it's the space between notes
      that is most important.

      -- Tony

      '--- In thewire@yahoogroups.com, chx <yahoogroper@b...> wrote:
      > One of the advantages of its lameness is that it limps around in a
      circle...
      >
      > ...in successfully playing the 'wrong notes', DB makes one wonder
      > whether it wasn't actually 'the right note'; so 'we' might come to
      > question the very notion of 'wrong' and 'right' notes and their
      > relationship to each other as units of signification...
      >
      >
      > chx
      >
      > >that is pretty lame. derek is a master musician, and know exactly
      hat
      > >he is doing. his note choices are more considered and precise
      than
      > >almost anyone alive.
      > >damon
      > >
      > >On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 08:44 PM, noblegasesuk wrote:
      > >
      > >> I described Derek Bailey to a bandmate tonight as someone who
      > >> purposely plays the wrong notes....
      > >>
      > >> -- Tony
      > >>
      > >> --- In thewire@yahoogroups.com, chx <yahoogroper@b...> wrote:
      > >>> Aidia - I don't listen to it very often, but it seems to
      capture
      > >> his
      > >>> 'sound'. Willfully unpredictably predictable, an intense
      > >> (seemingly)
      > >>> consciously cerebral effort to throw musical expectations to
      the
      > >> wind.
      > >>>
      > >>> Saisoro - For true mutant jazz, jazz for true mutants.
      > >>>
      > >>> BTW thanks to all for tips on black metal. No help on the
      freebie
      > >>> disc DB front?
      > >>>
      > >>> chx
      > >>> --
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      > >>> -chx
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    • gradyfinklemyer
      Damn, wish I still had that 10cd Sakamoto box of work from the early to mid 80 s. There was some good stuff on there. I liked the disc with the picture of him
      Message 35 of 35 , Dec 11, 2003
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        Damn, wish I still had that 10cd Sakamoto box of work from the early
        to mid 80's. There was some good stuff on there. I liked the disc
        with the picture of him at the piano, and a shadow of an insect
        behind him. Hard to keep track of all his stuff though.

        --- In thewire@yahoogroups.com, Ivan Lapse <ivanlapse@y...> wrote:
        > Check out the following site:
        >
        > http://www.artskool.biz/jem/index.html
        >
        > & before you spring for the YMO Japanese reishes you
        > might want to hit the used bins as most of their
        > catalog was released via Restless in the 80/90s.
        >
        > IHMO, Hosono's *Tropical Dandy* and YMO's *BGM* are
        > both highly recommended.
        >
        > Cheers,
        >
        > Ivan
        >
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