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  • kraig grady
    Jim French BTW is still on the war path on this one, i wouldn t suggest anyone to reissue it w/o his approval. his sword is sharpened and i mean a real sharpen
    Message 1 of 17 , Oct 2, 2003
      Jim French BTW is still on the war path on this one, i wouldn't suggest
      anyone to reissue it w/o his approval.
      his sword is sharpened and i mean a real sharpen sword

      Charlie M wrote:

      > > Henry Kaiser "It's a Wonderful Life" (Metalanguage): One of my favorites
      > > from him but hardly ever mentioned anymore.
      >
      > Are any Metalanguage titles available??
      >
      > These are also long term inmates on my wants list....
      > Jim French - "If Looks Could Kill" LP ( Metalanguage)
      > Henry Kaiser - "Marrying For Money", "It's A Wonderful Life", "Social Set",
      > "Improvised" (w/ John Oswald) LPs, "Aloha" DLP (Metalanguage)
      >
      > Charlie
      >
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    • derdoppledoppleganger
      many of these HAVE been reissued and are still available... music improv company is on cd on universal japan, no new york is on cd and vinyl in japan, the
      Message 2 of 17 , Oct 2, 2003
        many of these HAVE been reissued and are still available...
        music improv company is on cd on universal japan, no new york is on cd and vinyl
        in japan, the kaiser /oswald is on cd plus unreleased stuff on incus, the big flame
        catalog is on cd on drag city, all of it's a wonderful life is on cd, over a couple of
        releases (lemon fish tweezer and others). universal japan also did the bailey/
        holland, the milford graves "meditation among us", etc... good stuff, done well in
        mini jackets. you can still find m.i.c. for ten bucks, i see it fairly often. there were
        quite a few on the wire list that are actually available still....

        putney
      • gradyfinklemyer
        The first two Egg albums have just been reissued. They were previously available as high-priced Japanese imports. ... of the ... late 70s/early 80s. ...
        Message 3 of 17 , Oct 2, 2003
          The first two Egg albums have just been reissued. They were
          previously available as high-priced Japanese imports.

          --- In thewire@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie M" <charlie.m@u...> wrote:
          > This could be "floodgates" time...
          >
          > The crucial unreissued masterpiece(s) for me are the entire output
          of the
          > awesome Homosexuals, an extraordinary outfit from the
          late '70s/early '80s.
          >
          > The badly compiled Recommended LP is still awesome in itself -
          particularly
          > Side 1, however I gather it's unlikely to be reissued due to most
          of the
          > band resenting the 1st issue of it against their wishes.
          >
          > Lamont Young's "Black Album" is another one awaiting sensible re-
          issue.
          > Although technically still in print, the remaining (very old!) new
          copies
          > that are still available from the 2800 (?) pressing are priced at an
          > extraordinary $100+ from Young's MELA website! I'd like to hear
          that one
          > justified!
          >
          > What else...
          > "Streets" - yes, a classic early punk comp and mostly great. Edwin
          Pouncey
          > does indeed appear as vocalist with the Art Attacks
          > Another stupendous punk comp is the mighty "Raw Deal" on Raw
          Records also
          > from '77. The Killjoys are at their stun/dunt best here and the
          Users and
          > Sick Things are equally fantastic.
          >
          > Other stuff whose current availability I'm unsure of (some I have;
          some
          > languish on my wants list......) includes ......
          > Big Flame,
          > early Cardiacs,
          > 1st 2 Egg Lps,
          > Steve Moore "A Quiet Gathering",
          > Vitamin B12 2nd LP (super limited 96 (?) edition run that I
          missed!),
          > Birdyak - "Abberration" LP (Klinker Zoundz),
          > Hampton Grease Band - LP,
          > Sophie and Peter Johnston - Peel Session ,
          > Nazca - "Estacion De Sombra" LP,
          > Pointy Birds (although their LP was never released in the 1st
          place - it
          > remains in the vaults...),
          > Charles Tyler Quartet - "Definite Vol 1" LP (Storyville),
          > Davey Williams - various Transmuseq releases,
          > any number of stupidly obscure early punk, DIY and hardcore
          > records......etc. etc.
          >
          > Charlie Mason
          >
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: "Lang Thompson" <wlt4@m...>
          > To: <thewire@yahoogroups.com>
          > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 3:28 AM
          > Subject: [thewire] other great lost albums
          >
          >
          > > So what are some other nominations? Here are mine:
          > >
          > > Jody Harris & Robert Quine "Escape" (Lust/Unlust)
          > >
          > > RRRadio - Ron from RRRecords used to do a radio show of live on-
          air
          > > collages from material submitted to him (even from me) then
          release tapes
          > > and sometimes LPs. Always worth hearing.
          > >
          > > Henry Kaiser "It's a Wonderful Life" (Metalanguage): One of my
          favorites
          > > from him but hardly ever mentioned anymore.
          > >
          > > home tapers - A brief flurry of activity in the 80s related to
          mail art,
          > > the industrial movement and whatever that mostly bypassed stores
          and
          > > standard commercial channels. Tape albums might be done in runs
          of a few
          > > hundred but were more often duplicated individually, sometimes
          even
          > > one-of-a-kind. I have fond memories of material from Zan
          Hoffman, the
          > > Psyclones, Minoy, TIV Song, Haters and others.
          > >
          > > Nicolas Collins "Devil's Music": An early use of sampler to grab
          radio
          > > signals with real-time editing. The repetition of bits gave this
          a bit of
          > > a minimalist feel and the unpredictability of the radio source
          provided
          > the
          > > variety. (During an interview, Collins told me that he thought
          the use of
          > > local radio softened the potential arrogant attitude of "Hi, I'm
          from New
          > > York and this is my music.") There's a nice LP and a more raw
          cassette.
          > >
          > > "Streets" - A great compilation of 77/78 British punk that seems
          to have
          > > mostly disappeared.
          > >
          > > hardcore compilations - Comps may have been the natural home for
          hardcore
          > > recordings since so many bands had a great song or two but
          frequently not
          > > much more. Worth salvaging: Let Them Eat Jellybeans, Cleanse the
          > > Bacteria, World Class Punk, All Quiet on the Western Front,
          releases from
          > > Borderless Countries Tapes and tons of others.
          > >
          > > Human Switchboard "Who's Landing in My Hanger?"
          > >
          > > "Wanna Buy a Bridge?" - Great great Rough Trade collection
          unlikely to be
          > > reissued due to rights problems.
          > >
          > > "Ohrenschrauben" - I remember this being the best of the
          > > industrial/experimental comps but wonder what I'd think of it
          > > today. Apparently the CD leaves off a track or two.
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > LT
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
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        • churchofanthrax
          ... issue. ... copies ... an ... that one ... While it s true that MELA s prices are ridiculously high, I remember seeing that one going for $100-150 on eBay a
          Message 4 of 17 , Oct 2, 2003
            --- In thewire@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie M" <charlie.m@u...> wrote:

            > Lamont Young's "Black Album" is another one awaiting sensible re-
            issue.
            > Although technically still in print, the remaining (very old!) new
            copies
            > that are still available from the 2800 (?) pressing are priced at
            an
            > extraordinary $100+ from Young's MELA website! I'd like to hear
            that one
            > justified!

            While it's true that MELA's prices are ridiculously high, I remember
            seeing that one going for $100-150 on eBay a while back
            consistently. And at least you know you're getting an unplayed copy
            that's been sitting in storage for 35 years rather than one that
            could have been on someone's turntable that whole time (for the same
            money).

            But it's still a tad presumptuous to be charging eBay money
            for "new" copies.

            > Hampton Grease Band - LP,

            There was a CD re of it a while back, I think it may be OOP now. But
            it shows up on eBay a lot for cheap and the LP isn't as hard to get
            as I thought it would be (when I decided to grab one, I paid $20 for
            a nice copy, and I keep seeing copies pop up in that price range
            pretty regularly).


            Cheers,
            -Piotr
          • PhilT
            ... 80s. ... particularly ... last i heard, the guy at acute records (who released the theoretical girls comp last/this year) is trying to get a proper comp
            Message 5 of 17 , Oct 3, 2003
              > The crucial unreissued masterpiece(s) for me are the entire output of the
              > awesome Homosexuals, an extraordinary outfit from the late '70s/early
              '80s.
              > The badly compiled Recommended LP is still awesome in itself -
              particularly
              > Side 1, however I gather it's unlikely to be reissued due to most of the
              > band resenting the 1st issue of it against their wishes.

              last i heard, the guy at acute records (who released the theoretical girls
              comp last/this year) is trying to get a proper comp underway and is speaking
              to the main players with some success...

              http://www.geocities.com/danselzer/introduction.html

              philT
            • Burton Thomas
              There are four Metal language LPs listed as available at: http://www.cadencebuilding.com/cadence/musicsaleshp.html including the Kaiser item. ... From:
              Message 6 of 17 , Oct 3, 2003
                There are four Metal language LPs listed as available at:

                http://www.cadencebuilding.com/cadence/musicsaleshp.html

                including the Kaiser item.


                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "Charlie M" <charlie.m@...>
                Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:11:58 +0100
                To: <thewire@yahoogroups.com>
                Subject: Re: [thewire] other great lost albums

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                <tt>
                <BR>
                > Henry Kaiser "It's a Wonderful Life" (Metalanguage): One of my favorites<BR>
                > from him but hardly ever mentioned anymore.<BR>
                <BR>
                Are any Metalanguage titles available??<BR>
                <BR>
                These are also long term inmates on my wants list....<BR>
                Jim French - "If Looks Could Kill" LP ( Metalanguage)<BR>
                Henry Kaiser - "Marrying For Money", "It's A Wonderful Life", "Social Set",<BR>
                "Improvised" (w/ John Oswald) LPs, "Aloha" DLP (Metalanguage)<BR>
                <BR>
                <BR>
                Charlie<BR>
                <BR>
                <BR>
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              • Burton Thomas
                There are four Metalanguage LPs listed as available at: http://www.cadencebuilding.com/cadence/musicsaleshp.html including the Kaiser item. ... From: Charlie
                Message 7 of 17 , Oct 3, 2003
                  There are four Metalanguage LPs listed as available at:

                  http://www.cadencebuilding.com/cadence/musicsaleshp.html

                  including the Kaiser item.


                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: "Charlie M" <charlie.m@...>
                  Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:11:58 +0100
                  To: <thewire@yahoogroups.com>
                  Subject: Re: [thewire] other great lost albums

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                  <tt>
                  <BR>
                  > Henry Kaiser "It's a Wonderful Life" (Metalanguage): One of my favorites<BR>
                  > from him but hardly ever mentioned anymore.<BR>
                  <BR>
                  Are any Metalanguage titles available??<BR>
                  <BR>
                  These are also long term inmates on my wants list....<BR>
                  Jim French - "If Looks Could Kill" LP ( Metalanguage)<BR>
                  Henry Kaiser - "Marrying For Money", "It's A Wonderful Life", "Social Set",<BR>
                  "Improvised" (w/ John Oswald) LPs, "Aloha" DLP (Metalanguage)<BR>
                  <BR>
                  <BR>
                  Charlie<BR>
                  <BR>
                  <BR>
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                • John Farrar
                  The Sewer Zombies John F.
                  Message 8 of 17 , Oct 3, 2003
                    The Sewer Zombies

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                  • Perfect Sound Forever
                    ... Yep, Dan Selzer (who deserves a Noble or Pulitzer or some such equivalent) has been trying to work on that for a while but has sadly gotten nothing but
                    Message 9 of 17 , Oct 3, 2003
                      > Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 18:55:07 +1000
                      > From: PhilT <nns@...>
                      >Subject: Re: other great lost albums
                      >
                      > > The crucial unreissued masterpiece(s) for me are the entire output of the
                      > > awesome Homosexuals, an extraordinary outfit from the late '70s/early
                      >'80s.
                      > > The badly compiled Recommended LP is still awesome in itself -
                      >particularly
                      > > Side 1, however I gather it's unlikely to be reissued due to most of the
                      > > band resenting the 1st issue of it against their wishes.
                      >
                      >last i heard, the guy at acute records (who released the theoretical girls
                      >comp last/this year) is trying to get a proper comp underway and is speaking
                      >to the main players with some success...
                      >
                      >http://www.geocities.com/danselzer/introduction.html

                      Yep, Dan Selzer (who deserves a Noble or Pulitzer or some such equivalent)
                      has been trying to work on that for a while but has sadly gotten nothing
                      but resistance from the band itself. I've heard rumors that might be
                      changing though so we'll see...

                      Best,
                      Jason
                    • Stevo
                      ... This was at least released as a 2cd thingy cos I ve got it. Music to EAt? Had a very nasty review in Forcedexposure which would put it around 1993. Its
                      Message 10 of 17 , Oct 3, 2003
                        --- In thewire@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie M" <charlie.m@u...> wrote:

                        > Hampton Grease Band - LP,

                        This was at least released as a 2cd thingy cos I've got it.
                        Music to EAt?
                        Had a very nasty review in Forcedexposure which would put it around
                        1993.
                        Its pretty cool if you like long Zappaesque guitar stuff with a
                        looper making up lyrics over it.
                        The negative review came as a reaction to the press release which was
                        claiming it to be massively influential on a lot of things it didn't
                        really seem to be./

                        Amazon has it listed here.
                        http://makeashorterlink.com/?J26623816

                        Stevo
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                      • michael j
                        Aloha has been reissued with other material...I believe Marrying For Money was reissued a while back as REmarrying for money Eugene Chadbourne s
                        Message 11 of 17 , Oct 4, 2003
                          "Aloha" has been reissued with other material...I believe "Marrying
                          For Money" was reissued a while back as "REmarrying for money"
                          Eugene Chadbourne's Parachute label put out some good improv records
                          in the early 80's...I have a great Transmuseq disc from 1980
                          called "Direct Waves"...what about the Anthony Braxton LPs on
                          Arista ? I haven't seen many of those and they are essential in my
                          opinion...Sackville Records out of Toronto had some great titles by
                          Braxton, Mitchell and others including solo albums (w/overdubs) by
                          George Lewis & JUlius Hemphill...also a couple of oddities that
                          attempt to merge classical avant-garde with improv : "Music Of Our
                          Time" Bernstein conducting the NY Phil :Feldman,Ligeti, Larry Austin
                          (with Barre Phillips as a soloist) and (teehee) improvisations by
                          the orchestra-the liner notes admit they had predetermined cues from
                          Lennie. This was on Columbia as was Lukas Foss' "Time Cycle" again
                          w/ Bernstein conducting; each movement of the piece has interludes
                          'improvised' by Foss' Improvisation Chamber Ensemble (I.C.E.?)-again
                          it's not FREE improvisation and remains sounding quite serial
                          --- In thewire@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie M" <charlie.m@u...> wrote:
                          >
                          > > Henry Kaiser "It's a Wonderful Life" (Metalanguage): One of my
                          favorites
                          > > from him but hardly ever mentioned anymore.
                          >
                          > Are any Metalanguage titles available??
                          >
                          > These are also long term inmates on my wants list....
                          > Jim French - "If Looks Could Kill" LP ( Metalanguage)
                          > Henry Kaiser - "Marrying For Money", "It's A Wonderful
                          Life", "Social Set",
                          > "Improvised" (w/ John Oswald) LPs, "Aloha" DLP (Metalanguage)
                          >
                          >
                          > Charlie
                        • Stevo
                          ... what about the Anthony Braxton LPs on ... REminds me, I was looking up the Town Hall 72 cd on Google after having lost my copy several years back. What I
                          Message 12 of 17 , Oct 7, 2003
                            --- In thewire@yahoogroups.com, "michael j" <emptyj4@h...> wrote:
                            what about the Anthony Braxton LPs on
                            > Arista ? I haven't seen many of those and they are essential in my
                            > opinion...Sackville Records out of Toronto had some great titles by
                            > Braxton,
                            >
                            REminds me, I was looking up the Town Hall'72 cd on Google after
                            having lost my copy several years back.
                            What I found didn't seem to have the same tracklisting as the copy
                            of the cd I used to have, which had A Jerome Kern song on and came
                            with a free mini poster from the gig.
                            Was there a cd from the early 90s that added material that wasn't on
                            the original lp or something?
                            Stevo
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