Re: [thewire] Re: //Copyright monopoly and creative sounds
- Well, check out the numerous "variations on a theme by" (such as Brahms
variations on Haydn & Paganini, Vaughn Williams on Tallis, etc), the final
movement of Brahms 1, quite a bit of Shostakovich (esp the 15th symphony),
Mozart's Haydn quartets (and supposedly references to other now forgotten
operas in some of his own), Stravinsky's Pulcinella (using Pergolesi or
material atributed to him), lots of Handel pieces (though I'm not familiar
enough to recognize them), Vivaldi apparently included entire arias from
other composers in some of his operas (which goes a bit beyond "quotation")
and of course countless uses of folk songs (Bartok, Ives, Tchaikovsky,
Copland, etc etc).
> > classical composers to include "quotations" by other composers.
- Olivier wrote to wire:
OB> Forgot to mention Bach's quoting of Vivaldi in some of his concertos...
Or wholesale transcription, in the case of the Concerto for 4 Klavier
(based on a 4-violin concerto of Vivaldi's).
There's a piece by Stockhausen I'd be appalled if I had to actually cite
by name ;-). Mind you, Beethoven had fun with anthems in Wellington's
Victory 1.5 century earlier ... I'm sure there are other uses of
patriotic themes (oh wait, Ives, duh).
The most startling intrusion I can think of -- it works just a sample,
in fact most like a "cut-in" record -- is the quotation from a Beethoven
sonata (I think it's from the prelude to the 4th movement of the
Hammerklavier, but unfortunately Ch-Cr is still in storage so I can't
check) in George Crumb's Makrokosmos v.2, which floats in like the Ghost
There's a metric ton of quotation in George Rochberg's post-60s work as
Jim Flannery newgrange@...
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