Re: [thewire] Re: //Copyright monopoly and creative sounds
- Once again patents would apply in this case also and i see no reason under
your argument why someone should not be allowed to use a "tangible
expression" before the creator does. In such a case i believe it can very
drastically infringe on the creators expression. In the end it is all a
personal veiwpoint. what about lets say the Objibwe tribe if i used one of
their sacred songs. Why should they conform to to what someone else defines
> --- In email@example.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:-- -Kraig Grady
> "If ideas which belong to the creator in the most direct way are to
> be limited why should not private property which belongs historically
> more to a group of people than any individual. Why not have a limit
> on any thing that can be
> I wouldn't be averse to such an idea Kraig, certainly where land is
> concerned. I personally think it's outrageous that some people own
> small islands while others are homeless,but that's my moral position.
> Logically I can see no analogy, because, as I've said, if you have to
> give up your land then you can't use it anymore, whereas, if you have
> to relinquish your IP rights it just means that I can use a copy. I'm
> not affecting the original copy, or your ability to use the
> copyrighted materials.
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- Olivier wrote to wire:
OB> Forgot to mention Bach's quoting of Vivaldi in some of his concertos...
Or wholesale transcription, in the case of the Concerto for 4 Klavier
(based on a 4-violin concerto of Vivaldi's).
There's a piece by Stockhausen I'd be appalled if I had to actually cite
by name ;-). Mind you, Beethoven had fun with anthems in Wellington's
Victory 1.5 century earlier ... I'm sure there are other uses of
patriotic themes (oh wait, Ives, duh).
The most startling intrusion I can think of -- it works just a sample,
in fact most like a "cut-in" record -- is the quotation from a Beethoven
sonata (I think it's from the prelude to the 4th movement of the
Hammerklavier, but unfortunately Ch-Cr is still in storage so I can't
check) in George Crumb's Makrokosmos v.2, which floats in like the Ghost
There's a metric ton of quotation in George Rochberg's post-60s work as
Jim Flannery newgrange@...
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selfishness, and stupidity, and without stupidity the others
are useless." -- Gustave Flaubert
np: F/i, _Why Not Now? ... Alan!_
nr: Claude Lévi-Strauss, _Tristes Tropiques_