Re: //Copyright monopoly and creative sounds
--- In email@example.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
"If ideas which belong to the creator in the most direct way are to
be limited why should not private property which belongs historically
more to a group of people than any individual. Why not have a limit
on any thing that can be
I wouldn't be averse to such an idea Kraig, certainly where land is
concerned. I personally think it's outrageous that some people own
small islands while others are homeless,but that's my moral position.
Logically I can see no analogy, because, as I've said, if you have to
give up your land then you can't use it anymore, whereas, if you have
to relinquish your IP rights it just means that I can use a copy. I'm
not affecting the original copy, or your ability to use the
By the way, it seems to me that while anyone can copyright something
it's really only very rich people or Organisations who can afford to
enforce it so the de facto position is much the same as that with
- Olivier wrote to wire:
OB> Forgot to mention Bach's quoting of Vivaldi in some of his concertos...
Or wholesale transcription, in the case of the Concerto for 4 Klavier
(based on a 4-violin concerto of Vivaldi's).
There's a piece by Stockhausen I'd be appalled if I had to actually cite
by name ;-). Mind you, Beethoven had fun with anthems in Wellington's
Victory 1.5 century earlier ... I'm sure there are other uses of
patriotic themes (oh wait, Ives, duh).
The most startling intrusion I can think of -- it works just a sample,
in fact most like a "cut-in" record -- is the quotation from a Beethoven
sonata (I think it's from the prelude to the 4th movement of the
Hammerklavier, but unfortunately Ch-Cr is still in storage so I can't
check) in George Crumb's Makrokosmos v.2, which floats in like the Ghost
There's a metric ton of quotation in George Rochberg's post-60s work as
Jim Flannery newgrange@...
"There are three things required for happiness: good health,
selfishness, and stupidity, and without stupidity the others
are useless." -- Gustave Flaubert
np: F/i, _Why Not Now? ... Alan!_
nr: Claude Lévi-Strauss, _Tristes Tropiques_