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  • Matthew Stephan
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      >Subject: Fwd: RE: [microsound] General Warning: Forced Exposure
      >Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:13:42 -0500
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      >>From: Lucky Kitchen <underwoodwork@...>
      >>Reply-To: microsound <microsound@...>
      >>To: microsound <microsound@...>
      >>Subject: RE: [microsound] General Warning: Forced Exposure
      >>Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT)
      >>
      >>General Warning Against:
      >>
      >>Forced Exposure USA
      >>www.forcedexposure.com
      >>Mr. Jimmy Johnson
      >>226 Lowel St.
      >>Somerville MA. 02143
      >>fe@...
      >>
      >>This is a warning to other labels particularly, but also to consumers
      >>and shops.
      >>
      >>Forced Exposure owes Lucky Kitchen for almost 7 months now, over 1,500
      >>US dollars on three open invoices. Mr. Johnson has avoided our email
      >>and phone contacts ( which we have regularly sent approximately 2 weeks
      >>apart for the past 4 months). When we contacted him by phone 3 months
      >>ago, Mr. Johnson actually hung up the phone in the middle of the
      >>conversation. The phonecall went like this:
      >>
      >>Lucky Kitchen" "hello, do you know when you can pay us for the open
      >>invoices?"
      >>Mr. Johnson: "No... is that all?"
      >>Lucky Kitchen: "do you have anything you would like to tell us? Do you
      >>have anything more to say?"
      >>Mr. Johnson: "Not really..." click...
      >>
      >>In a second phone call Mr. Johnson agreed to return all unsold LK CDs
      >>and write a check for the balance within the week. This was over 1
      >>month ago, and he has ignored further communications leading us to fear
      >>the worst: he has not intended to pay us since the beginning. Luckilly
      >>we stopped sending our new CDs 4 months ago or he would have them for
      >>free as well.
      >>
      >>Because we have dealt with certain distributors on the mistaken basis
      >>of trust, we have learned the hard way how vicious the situation can
      >>become. (The case of Dutch East India is fairly well known also, but
      >>at least they were upfront with their business troubles and they try to
      >>be respectful.) Let this be a general warning to all labels: DO NOT
      >>WORK WITH FORCED EXPOSURE ON A TRUST SYSTEM. DEMAND PAYMENT UPFRONT OR
      >>RISK LOSING YOUR HARD WORK. We have spoken to a dozen other labels who
      >>are also owed substantial sums of money by Mr. Johnson (we have heard
      >>horror stories , but we should not talk about this here). Most labels
      >>are too afraid to come forth because they believe silence is the best
      >>way to stay on Mr. Johnson's "good side".
      >>
      >>If Forced Exposure is, as it appears to be, a failing business, Mr.
      >>Johnson owes it to be upfront with his business partners -- the labels,
      >>big and small -- and to try to reach an accord of some sort. Since
      >>this is a basic business structure (Mr. Johnson ordered CDs, we sent
      >>them, Forced Exposure sold them on their website, they should then send
      >>us payment), it is clear that Mr. Johnson's arrogance and disrespect
      >>for basic fair business policies sinks below even our worst
      >>expectations. Also, since we are in Spain, our rights in general are
      >>limited by lack of international trade standards: it seems Mr. Johnson
      >>already knows this, probably from first hand experience.
      >>
      >>CONSUMERS: Please do not buy Lucky Kitchen CDs from Forced Exposure
      >>because they have been stolen from us. Please do not buy LK011 through
      >>LK015 from U.S. shops either because Forced Exposure was the dealer
      >>supplying them. (This notice DOES NOT include Anomalous Records who
      >>bought a small supply of LK015, and have since distributed LK in the
      >>USA starting from LK016 and pay ontime with great respect.)
      >>
      >>SHOPS: Please return all your Lucky Kitchen CDs directly to us, and do
      >>NOT pay Forced Exposure for them because they have been stolen from
      >>Lucky Kitchen and FE are not entitled to this money. If you have
      >>already sold the CDs, please do an accounting and pay us directly for
      >>them. We will work out a discounted price with you.
      >>
      >>EVERYONE: We realize that with the world situation as it is, most
      >>people do not care about this message in the least, and we don't blame
      >>you. However, please re-consider your relationship with Forced Exposure
      >>in regards to some basic principals of artist's rights which seem to be
      >>too often disregarded. Please forward to anyone to whom it may
      >>concern. We are not doing this just for the money, because we will
      >>probably spend as much money taking Mr. Johnson to court as he owes us.
      >> We are doing this to defend the rights of so called "small labels"
      >>whom Mr. Johnson among others seem to think have no rights. Please
      >>forward to anyone to whom it may concern.
      >>
      >>Open letter to Jimmy Johnson:
      >>
      >>We have made every attempt to be civil and upfront. In return, your
      >>behavior is unacceptable and sad and we will not forget it. If you do
      >>not want Lucky Kitchen CDs, please do not order them. After ordering
      >>them, you must pay for them. In an attempt to rectify the situation,
      >>please send us full payment immediately of all open Lucky Kitchen
      >>invoices and we will publicly acknowledge your step to set right what
      >>you have done wrong. Otherwise, we will come to Boston and call you
      >>into Small Claims Court, and continue sending this message to warn
      >>people about your company.
      >>
      >>
      >>Sincerely,
      >>
      >>Lucky Kitchen
      >>
      >>=====
      >>lucky kitchen
      >>damn sweet electronics
      >>http://www.luckykitchen.com
      >>......___...
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      >>......___...
      >>
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      >you don't know don't where to look, so you look at my hands"
      >- the weakerthans, << Pamphleteer >>
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      > _.new.
      >_'n_stl...' on INFLATION, mu-label. JAP. 2xCD.
      >
      > _.soon.
      >_CLEAN, l-ne. US. CD. <<october>>
      >_OBJECT SET AND MOTION, apestaartje. US. CD. <<summer>>
      >
      > _.performances.
      >_MUTEK, May 30th.
      >_possible tour of austria, france and germany in the
      >summer.
      >
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      >"How i don't know what i should do with my hands when i talk to you. How
      >you don't know don't where to look, so you look at my hands"
      >- the weakerthans, << Pamphleteer >>
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