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  • Joan Senomar
    Hi there again, this is (of course) the last UNSOLICITED mail you re going to get from me. After all the insults and threatening I got for posting the
    Message 1 of 2 , Aug 1, 2001
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      Hi there again,

      this is (of course) the last UNSOLICITED mail you're going to get from me.
      After all the insults and threatening I got for posting the newsletter to
      your groups, I think I truly deserve the right to explain myself:

      * I have been accsued for spamming. Maybe I am guilty of that. But do you
      really think a REAL spammer would send an "I am sorry" message 5 minutes
      after getting the first negative feedback? I am just an enthusiastic fan of
      music who is not very familiar with discussion lists procedures or what you
      call "nettiquete", a term absolutely unknown to me until this morning. Don't
      know about you, but as a human being I have the ability of learning from my
      mistakes. I thought the idea of sending the news of the birth of a music
      magazine to music forums was not something despisable, and it seems like I
      was wrong. Sorry again.

      * I have received tons of hate mail, threatening and viruses for doing what
      I did. I don't think what I did deserved such a nasty reaction from some of
      you. I would like to thank the hundreds of mails who politely asked to be
      removed from my mailing list and encouraged me to keep on working for what I
      believe and giving me advise on how to do things more properly in the
      future. Again, this is the last mail you're going to get. THis mail has
      nothing
      to do with Sonic Wave, won't even post the URL. THis is a personal mail
      from me to all the people I may have disturbed.

      * Finally, I would like to state that I feel very miserable about what has
      happened. Hope you can forgive me for my lack of professionality. I truly
      beg your pardon. I was just trying to help my friends at Sonic Wave
      Magazine. What I did, I did it at my own risk and I hope you can understand
      that and stop bugging them. They don't deserve this from you.

      Thanks for your time.

      SIncerely yours,

      Joan Senomar
    • DeeDee
      my oh my, I would never have thought I´d ever defend a bulk mail sender, but this is just ridiculous. Here are some people who are enthusiastic enough to
      Message 2 of 2 , Aug 1, 2001
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        my oh my,

        I would never have thought I´d ever defend a bulk mail sender, but
        this is just ridiculous. Here are some people who are enthusiastic
        enough to start a fanzine about music they love, with little prospect
        of becomíng millionaires from their enterprise anytime soon, who,
        maybe naively, choose a way of advertising that is not 100% kosher.
        fine. I think it´s cool to tell them to stop or find other ways to
        make people aware of their efforts, but no - out jumps the spanish
        inquisition and declares flame-war.
        kiddies, Sonic Wave is not the enemy - those guys advertising
        casinos, porn, multilevel-marketing and the like are the ones you
        want to go for. and if what Joan said is really true, for those who
        send threats and virusses to anybody; grow up and get a life. you´re
        no better than the spammers - their motive is money, yours is finding
        a ventile for your adolescent agressions. you paranoid brats probably
        also spend hours reading your firewall logs in order to find IPs of
        evil portscanners to strike back on, and feel very martial and heroic
        doing it.

        Oh, I´d like to state that I´m not a personal friend of Joan, have
        never heard of him (or her?), neither of Sonic Wave, before this day.


        oh, some of you will surely want to take revenge on me now (since
        it´s obvous I must be an evil corporate illuminati spammer as well)
        go ahead. my IP is 212.186.131.252.

        stuff like that just makes me sick.
        now let´s talk about music.

        cheers,
        deedee


        --- In thewire@y..., "Joan Senomar" <jsenomar@s...> wrote:
        > Hi there again,
        >
        > this is (of course) the last UNSOLICITED mail you're going to get
        from me.
        > After all the insults and threatening I got for posting the
        newsletter to
        > your groups, I think I truly deserve the right to explain myself:
        >
        > * I have been accsued for spamming. Maybe I am guilty of that. But
        do you
        > really think a REAL spammer would send an "I am sorry" message 5
        minutes
        > after getting the first negative feedback? I am just an
        enthusiastic fan of
        > music who is not very familiar with discussion lists procedures or
        what you
        > call "nettiquete", a term absolutely unknown to me until this
        morning. Don't
        > know about you, but as a human being I have the ability of learning
        from my
        > mistakes. I thought the idea of sending the news of the birth of a
        music
        > magazine to music forums was not something despisable, and it seems
        like I
        > was wrong. Sorry again.
        >
        > * I have received tons of hate mail, threatening and viruses for
        doing what
        > I did. I don't think what I did deserved such a nasty reaction from
        some of
        > you. I would like to thank the hundreds of mails who politely asked
        to be
        > removed from my mailing list and encouraged me to keep on working
        for what I
        > believe and giving me advise on how to do things more properly in
        the
        > future. Again, this is the last mail you're going to get. THis mail
        has
        > nothing
        > to do with Sonic Wave, won't even post the URL. THis is a personal
        mail
        > from me to all the people I may have disturbed.
        >
        > * Finally, I would like to state that I feel very miserable about
        what has
        > happened. Hope you can forgive me for my lack of professionality. I
        truly
        > beg your pardon. I was just trying to help my friends at Sonic Wave
        > Magazine. What I did, I did it at my own risk and I hope you can
        understand
        > that and stop bugging them. They don't deserve this from you.
        >
        > Thanks for your time.
        >
        > SIncerely yours,
        >
        > Joan Senomar
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