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  • alexei monroe
    Apr 11, 1999
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      I know Im behind here but I absolutely agree about Les Dawson's
      experimentalism - sublime. Im so happy to hear there are recordings
      of his atonalism - are they still available, could you do a copy. Pls

      On a similar note (sorry), did anyone see the C4 docu on pianos in
      Cuba last year?. Basically over the years all their Russian pianos
      have been radically detuned by heat and termites. They showed a young
      piano pupil playing some classical piece perfectlty but the atonality
      on that piano was really hilarious, joyful and experimental all at
      the same time. Id love a CD of that stuff. It made me think the
      Cubans are missing a huge opportunity, instead of bemoaning the
      situation they could turn these decaying pianos to their advantage
      and construct a radical attack on Western bourgeois tonality rather
      than trying to ape it. If anyone wants a radical instrument buy a
      decaying Cuban piano, or at least get out there and sample it. PS:
      DONT BUY BACARDI - its not Cuban at all but the product of a massive
      US corporation that has lobbied really hard for the sanctions on
      Cuba. Stick to Havana Club - far superior.

      >From: John Everall <john.sentrax@...>
      >Reply-To: thewire@onelist.com
      >To: thewire@onelist.com
      >Subject: [thewire] Re: Dumbing down...
      >Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 16:58:28 +1040
      >From: John Everall <john.sentrax@...>
      >Alex Stone wrote:
      >> From: Alex Stone <alex@astone.u-net.com>
      >> A few points...
      >> >>I think a major problem is that a lot of the music discussed on
      >> >list is pretty
      >> >>'selfish' in one form or another
      >> Well, yes, but how many people are on this list now? One of the
      >> things about the internet is that you can 'meet' people with
      >> 'specialist' interests as yourself who you might never meet in a
      >> years of socialising. Then you don't have to go thtough the agony
      >> explaining yourself to people who don't really want to know
      anyway. After
      >> all, if experimental music was 'popular' music, then it wouldn't be
      >> experimental any more would it?
      >Laurie Anderson's "O Superman" reached number 2 in the UK national
      charts. Crass outsold
      >Bucks Fizz. Cabaret Voltaire's "Voice of America" hovered around the
      number thirty spot
      >in the UK national charts. I believe "The Faust Tapes" was rather
      popular also (OK,
      >perhaps it was the cheapo price). I really can't accept the idea
      that if something is
      >*popular* that it can no longer be *experimental*. Were The Flying
      >*experimental*? Other works by Cunningham, Toop, et al are
      considered to be so. Was The
      >White Album experimental in places..
      >When The Wire featured Nurse With Wound, I was quite surprised that
      Tony in his
      >editorial thought NWW fans would be shocked by Stapleton's
      admiration for Perez Prado.
      >Altogether more bizarre is the fact that Steve based an album around
      Charlie Drake's "My
      >Boomerang Won't Come Back" fifteen years ago ( for those who don't
      know Charlie was a
      >mildly crap British comedian of the sixties & seventies). So the
      next time anybody
      >listens to *Sylvie & Babs* & hears "umwhackaumwhacka, etc" remember
      the source of this!
      >I have thought about this long and hard & have come to the
      conclusion that Les Dawson
      >was as experimental as Cage - listen to his pre-Portsmouth Sinfonia
      warped piano pieces.
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