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  • redleg112@mchsi.com
    i came across a piece on the net-pacific wrecks i think it was. any way it stated that the hms jupiter, and electra, as well as encounter and exeter had all
    Message 1 of 4 , Nov 7, 2008
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      i came across a piece on the net-pacific wrecks i think it was. any way it stated that the hms jupiter, and electra, as well as encounter and exeter had all been found. it reported that one of them i forget which had been heavily salvaged as it was in rather shallow water near the coast of java.
      is there not an international treaty prohibiting doing this to warships as they are considered wargraves??

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    • Luis Ramos
      Folks- I made several searches using several keywords and only came with results of several United Kingdom acts, the last of which appeared to be the
      Message 2 of 4 , Nov 7, 2008
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        Folks-

        I made several searches using several keywords and only came with results of several United Kingdom acts, the last of which appeared to be the Protection of Military Remains Act of 1986.

        This act covers not only United Kingdom warships and airplanes but those from other countries as well. For airplanes the protection is automatic, for warships, they have to be designated first. Other countries observed this as an act of respect. However it is a case of a locality enacting a law. If people respect it because it is a law, then it is not broken. If people disrespect the law, then a "watch" has to be enacted. The "watch" can be called police, guards, or whatever you like. It appears that not all countries have agreed to have such a "watch."

        See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Military_Remains_Act_1986

        See http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/divers-raid-seabed-war-graves-for-trinkets-737906.html

        Another result hints of a "tripartite act between US, UK, and the USSR," now Russia, but no concrete results.

        If anyone has betterĀ  sources on this issue, please post them...

        Luis Ramos


        --- On Fri, 11/7/08, redleg112@... <redleg112@...> wrote:
        From: redleg112@... <redleg112@...>
        Subject: [The US Asiatic Fleet] war graves
        To: "jamesno1" <jamesno1@...>, "VIC" <vic@...>, "asiatic flt" <theusasiaticfleet@yahoogroups.com>
        Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 7:34 PM













        i came across a piece on the net-pacific wrecks i think it was. any way it stated that the hms jupiter, and electra, as well as encounter and exeter had all been found. it reported that one of them i forget which had been heavily salvaged as it was in rather shallow water near the coast of java.

        is there not an international treaty prohibiting doing this to warships as they are considered wargraves??



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      • Vic Campbell
        Hey Mike, You are a great Marine. No delay in your attack. I ll be sure this question is answered by somebody. There are rules on war wrecks, especially US
        Message 3 of 4 , Nov 7, 2008
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          Hey Mike,
          You are a great Marine. No delay in your attack. I'll be sure this
          question is answered by somebody. There are rules on war wrecks,
          especially US Navy wrecks. And there are international agreements. But
          the ocean is big and is impossible to police. Most registered divers
          take great care not to disturb these war graves. In the decades
          closely following the war though, scrap recovery was very common.
        • Robert Bergstrom
          Here is a link to the USA regulations; http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/org12-12.htm Bob Bergstrom ... From: Vic Campbell To:
          Message 4 of 4 , Nov 7, 2008
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            Here is a link to the USA regulations;

            http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/org12-12.htm

            Bob Bergstrom

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Vic Campbell
            To: theusasiaticfleet@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:16 PM
            Subject: [The US Asiatic Fleet] Re: war graves


            Hey Mike,
            You are a great Marine. No delay in your attack. I'll be sure this
            question is answered by somebody. There are rules on war wrecks,
            especially US Navy wrecks. And there are international agreements. But
            the ocean is big and is impossible to police. Most registered divers
            take great care not to disturb these war graves. In the decades
            closely following the war though, scrap recovery was very common.





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