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Re: Theos-World RE: "RACE," and 'ARYAN" Let Us Not Forget

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  • Jeremy Condick
    Many thanks for your efforts Dallas. It is clearly understood here. Regards Jeremy ... From: To: Sent:
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      Many thanks for your efforts Dallas.

      It is clearly understood here.

      Regards
      Jeremy

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <dalval14@...>
      To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:34 PM
      Subject: Theos-World RE: "RACE," and 'ARYAN" Let Us Not Forget


      > Nov 25 2002
      >
      > Dear Friends
      >
      > Both the words "race" and "aryan" had special meanings in 1875 /1899
      > which do not relate to later history including the period when the
      > political party of the Nazis in Germany and elsewhere, appropriations
      > of both these terms in the 1930s / 1940s and later, up to our modern
      > times.
      >
      > The word "Aryan" is from old central Asia and means "noble." The
      > ancient Persians were denoted "Iranis" -- and the designation has been
      > revived -- " or "Aryans."
      >
      >
      > If one goes to the INDEX of The SECRET DOCTRINE (1888) one will find
      > adequate references that determine what was meant by H P B when she
      > used those terms.
      >
      >
      > "Race" was used as a measure of TIME, and the development of certain
      > capacities, to which the whole of humanity was subject during the time
      > when it went through seven changes during the period of a "GLOBE." A
      > "GLOBE' is one seventh of a "ROUND." "Race," as then used by H P B,
      > had nothing to do with the color of the skin.
      >
      >
      > RACE
      >
      > [Complexion and its changes are dealt with in the S D on pages: Vol.
      > II, 178, 227, 249-50, 282.]
      > [Differences between Races are defined in S D Vol. I xliv; ; II,
      > 103, 249-50, 607 ]
      > [Origins were polygenetic S D I xxxv; 241, 574 ; II 139, 168,
      > 191fn, 249, 748 ]
      > [The dying out of races is explained: S D Vol. II 192, 195-6,
      > 443-5, 437, 609, 779-80 ]
      > [ The earliest races were boneless, ethereal, androgynous, astral, S
      > D II 46, 96, 108, 115-7, 131, 134, 149, 151, 160, 174, 191-2, 194,
      > 294, 583, 635, 704, ]
      > [ They were born from the "gods" S D I 323; II 86-7, 164, 198,
      > 507, 538 ]
      > [The effect of isolation on races: S D II 425 ]
      > [Hybrid "races" S D II 275, 714, 444 (new race springs from
      > hybrids) ]
      > ["Inferior" races : S D II 162, 249, 425 (a fallacy), 721, ]
      > [Three great "races" only remain: S D II 471fn, 780 ]
      > [Our "race" has reached the 5th sub-race S D II 471fn ]
      > [Savage besides civilized in all ages S D II 716 ]
      >
      >
      > Nowadays we refer to complexion when we mention race, and to physical
      > heredity, also to some of the vicissitudes that our ancestors have
      > been forced to undergo until a more reasonable sense of human balance
      > and equality
      >
      >
      > HEREDITY
      >
      > [Heredity-- Its causes S D I 223, II 421, ]
      > [Biogenetic Law S D II 659, ]
      > [Acquired characteristics: S D I 219, 223fn; II 711fn ]
      > [Transmission of atoms: S D II 671-2
      > [Karma and S D II 178, ]
      >
      >
      > ANTHROPOIDS and APES
      >
      > [Anthropoids: S D II 688fn, ]
      > [Unnatural, accidental creation: S D II 261, ]
      > [Origin: S D I 185fn, II 184, 195, 200-1, 262, 286-8, 375, 679,
      > 688-9 ]
      > [Descended from man S D II 185, 187, 287-8, 676, 682, 688fn, ]
      > ["Common ancestor ?" S D II 646 ]
      > [Some will become "human" in this Round: S D I 184, II
      > 61-3 ]
      > [3rd ROUND ape-man: S D II 730 ]
      > [Will die out in our race S D I 184 ]
      >
      >
      > ARYAN ( Irani - Persian - Noble )
      >
      > [Ancestors (of Egyptians S D II 328, 746 ); (Arabs are later S D
      > II 200}
      > [Born in the north S D II 426, 768 ]
      > [Atlanteans preceded and taught: S D II 144, 266fn, 352, 384,395,
      > 426, 495, 768, 776, ]
      > [Aryan Adepts fought Atlantean sorcerers S D II 225, 384, 495, ]
      > [5th race ( S D II 8, 10) is incorrectly called "Aryan" S D II
      > 433-4 ]
      > [Hindu, 1st sub-race of Aryans, almost 1 million years old S D II
      > 436fn, 449-451, 470-1, 609, ]
      > [Negroes, Mongols are of the Aryans S D II 607fn ]
      > [Europeans are later "aryans" S D I 425 ]
      > [Many colors S D II 249-50, 394, 426, 607fn ]
      > [2nd Sub-race built menhirs, etc...S D II 750
      > [Present Kali-Yuga is of the Aryans S D I 644-5; II 147fn ]
      >
      > These are a few of the many references to pre-history given in The
      > SECRET DOCTRINE
      >
      > Best wishes,
      >
      > Dallas
      >
      > =================================
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Daniel H. Caldwell
      > Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:06 AM
      > To:
      > Subject: Let Us Not Forget
      >
      > Even though Brian has been removed from Theos-Talk [that is my
      > understanding from Eldon's recent email], we should not forget that
      > Brian did bring to our forum some important issues that Blavatsky and
      > Theosophical students should ponder on.
      >
      > For example, the "race" issue and the use of the word "aryan" as
      > given in the various quotes from the Mahatma Letters and in the
      > Secret Doctrine need to be studied, discussed and understood.
      >
      > And I assume it was because of Brian that Goswami came to Theos-
      > Talk. That is good, because Goswami brings up underlying issues that
      > need to studied, discussed and understood by Theosophists.
      >
      > Daniel
      >
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