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Re: Theos-World Frank and the examples of the four lineages: Clarification needed

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  • Frank Reitemeyer
    Daniel, quick response as I have to leave home now, I ll coming back to it later, after I have puzzled out what your answer means. At the first moment I am not
    Message 1 of 1 , Dec 11, 2005
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      Daniel, quick response as I have to leave
      home now, I'll coming back to it later, after
      I have puzzled out what your answer means.
      At the first moment I am not quite sure,
      whether you are trying to fool me with
      dead-letter games?

      Or is my English so bad that my logic
      argument comes not through?
      Frank


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "danielhcaldwell"
      <danielhcaldwell@...>
      To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:11 AM
      Subject: Theos-World Frank and the examples
      of the four lineages: Clarification needed


      Frank,

      I wrote:

      ==================================================

      In the Adyar Theosophical Society, we have
      the following lineage:

      Blavatsky -> Besant & Leadbeater -> ????

      In the Point Loma Theosophical Society, the
      following lineage:

      Blavatsky -> Judge -> Tingley -> de
      Purucker -> ????

      In the United Lodge of Theosophists:

      Blavatsky -> Judge -> Crosbie -> ????

      In the Arcane School:

      Blavatsky -> Bailey -> ????

      ==================================================

      But you write:

      "....each theosophical lineage as each
      religion has
      something in it that is worth...."

      "....I believe that each lineage has is worth
      on
      its own plane, so long as the light shines
      above it....

      "...no single lineage - as I here and than
      wrote on
      theos-talk - has the whole truth and not each
      lineage has the same portion in quantity and
      quality of the uncorrupted original
      teachings."

      But Frank I think you are here changing the
      "issue" or THE POINT
      under discusssion.

      I was NOT referring to what lineage has "the
      whole truth" or
      what lineage has the greater "portion" of the
      "uncorrupted orginal
      teaching" or even the "worth" of each
      lineage.

      The issue was different.

      Do you believe Besant and Leadbeater were
      HPB's
      genuine occult successors and that this Adyar
      lineage (succession)
      therefore is "true and genuine"?

      Or do you believe Crosbie was the real
      "esoteric" successor
      to Judge? In other words, NOT Tingley and de
      Purucker? And
      therefore that the ULT lineage is the true
      and genuine thing?

      Or do you believe Bailey was the next legit
      messenger after
      HPB?

      Frank, are you saying that you believe ALL
      these
      3 above mentioned lineages are "true and
      genuine" in some way?

      Or do you believe that the real occult
      lineage, succession
      and history was as follows?

      that WQJ was the true occult successor of
      HPB, & Tingley was in turn the chosen
      "successor" to WQJ, and
      Purucker followed in the "esoteric footsteps"
      of Tingley?

      Therefore, is my description below so way off
      base or inaccurate?

      "Frank Reitemeyer is a strong and vocal
      advocate that promotes the
      Blavatsky-Judge-Tingley-de Purucker line of
      succession. He has no
      doubt whatsoever that this lineage is the
      true and genuine one. He
      is equally convinced that Leadbeater was
      nothing but a "swindler",
      etc. etc."

      Hoping for clarification.

      Daniel












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