RE: Theos-World ULT Day Letter
- Many thanks Leon:
I am glad you got my meaning. Really it is PEACE to all.
I really prefer to spend my time in constructive things.
We'll see what comes.
From: leonmaurer@... [mailto:leonmaurer@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World ULT Day Letter
Sorry to butt in, but I couldn't let this one go by without
In a message dated 07/13/01 6:32:44 PM, ringding@... writes:
>>As to Frank: His point of view is that and ORGANIZATION isthe
>>essential. I don't think he gets the idea that one can be
>>INDEPENDENTLY DEVOTED TO THE CAUSE OF THEOSOPHY.
>Wrong, Dallas. You and everyone can do what they like.
>But I protest when the Hinayana way of the ULT is presented to
>uninformed an untrained internet public as a favorable model.Right, Dallas.
What model? What is the "Hinayana way" of the ULT? How can a
lodge (or a
framework for study of ALL esoteric teachings) -- composed of
students, studying the path toward the goal of "Self realization"
"enlightenment") that each, alone, is free to follow as he/she
determines" -- have an overriding "organizational" goal, or be
following ANY exoteric, (or esoteric) "way"?
Who guides it? Who enforces its will on its independent
and what are its objectives to "control" or steer the studies of
associates (other than its only published manifesto, the
"Declaration of the
ULT" -- which says it all)?
>>He seems to want the support of an organized group that can
>>him what to do.that you
>That is only your porjection. Man, what kind of sect is that ULT
>learn such twisted thinking???No. That is only a reasonable observation based on what you say.
Since when can such a "lodge" (a voluntary association of
students, not an organization) be a "sect" and have any separate
teachings that are not within the scope of the most ancient
taught by HPB at the root level of pure spirituality, along with
"fundamental principles" that are the ultimate foundation of all
exoteric Buddhist "sects" such as the Hinayana, the Mahayana, or
Vajrayana? Isn't which way one goes in theosophical study or
a matter of individual choice?
Is there any such thing as an "esoteric" Buddhist sect -- or any
sect for that matter? How can any "organization," with any
agenda for study
or practice, be "esoteric"? But, an "independent association"
be -- depending on the individual choice of each student. So,
Doesn't HPB's theosophical teachings (that ULT points to, along
with all its
confirmations in ancient literature and Master's teachings)
ALL of those directions of thought and practice at their deepest
not its root teachings (resting on the most ancient esoteric
Book of Dzyan, or "Book of the Golden Precepts" -- upon which the
commentaries in the SD are based) sufficient evidence that there
overriding ideas attributable to a non-organization like ULT that
can in any
way "twist" the thoughts of its independent students -- who can
theosophy from any source, in any way they choose? What's to
stop them or,
who's to conform them?
Who, or what evidence "conditioned" YOUR prejudicial thoughts
"activities" of the ULT -- that you have so little first hand
Maybe, you still misunderstand that ULT, has no leaders or
directors with any
personal agendas that can influence any student who uses its
study classes, lectures and libraries (without supervision,
"obligation other than that which they themselves determine") to
practice whatever they can about theosophy, its metaphysical
esoteric occultism and its moral imperatives -- to whatever depth
to penetrate -- under their own steam, using their own "self
devised and self
determined efforts." What's so Hinayana "cultish" about that?
Where and from whom did you hear any differently about the "aims
>>Remember that the ULT is a 6th ROUND concept
>Seems you are drunken. Do you really know what you speak?
>The ULT is only in the 6th round??
>I assumed the ULT is still on another PLANET.
>The ULT was, is and will ever be a purely exoteric organization.
>had the higher teachings.avidya and the
>ULT can be compared with Theravada Buddhism.
>The same dead letter believe, the same proud about the own
>same dogmatism if not fanatism.That's a bold group of unfounded and pejorative statements that
grounds in reality, misinform all the "uninformed an untrained
public," and which label you as an ignoramus about anything that
has to do
with the, aims, purposes and "ends in view" of the United Lodge
Such specious arguments based on opinionated nonsense, along with
insulting comments to boot, add nothing to your credibility.
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