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Re: Theos-World Re: Re: Standard of Truth?

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  • Jeremy Condick
    Agreed with 100% Zack J ... From: Zack Lansdowne To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:02 PM Subject:
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      Agreed with 100% Zack

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      From: "Zack Lansdowne" <zackl@...>
      To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:02 PM
      Subject: Theos-World Re: Re: Standard of Truth?


      >
      > James,
      >
      > I like what you have written in your various recent messages, including
      the
      > following:
      >
      >
      > >At the root of it, I think, is the love of form at the expense of
      > >essence.
      >
      > >"Men are idolaters, and want something to look at and kiss and hug, or
      > >throw themselves down before; they always did, they always will, and
      > >if you don't make it of wood, you must make it of words."
      > >(Oliver Wendell Holmes)
      >
      > >"We cannot let our angels go. We do not see that they only go out
      > >that archangels may come in. We are idolaters of the old."
      > >(Emerson)
      >
      >
      > My sense is that progress on the spiritual journey occurs as we
      > progressively relinquish what we had once relied on. So, for instance, if
      > we are relying on a spiritual teacher to tell us what to do, sooner or
      later
      > we will have to leave that teacher; if we are relying on a set of books
      > (whether the Bible, HPB's books, or AAB's books) to tell us what to think,
      > sooner or later we will have to find our answers through our own inquiry
      > rather than simply quote what someone else has written.
      >
      > Krishnamurti (in "Freedom from the Known") points out that we will even
      have
      > to give up the authority of our own past experiences: "Having realised
      that
      > we can depend on no outside authority in bringing about a total revolution
      > within the structure of our own psyche, there is the immensely greater
      > difficulty of rejecting our own inward authority, the authority of our own
      > particular little experiences and accumulated opinions, knowledge, ideas
      and
      > ideals."
      >
      > What I do not understand in this ongoing verbal war between some followers
      > of HPB and some followers of AAB is why there is a war at all. In both
      > HPB's and AAB's writings, I have personally found some words to be
      > inspiring, other words that I have disagreed with, other words that I have
      > not understood, and still other words that I have found, for me, to be
      > unimportant and a waste of my time. I am sure that there are areas of
      > disagreement between HPB and AAB, but I have found many areas of
      agreement.
      > I am grateful that I have had access to both sets of writings. I agree
      with
      > both HPB and AAB when they say that truth (or Theosophy) is ineffable,
      that
      > all words are at best symbols of truth, but not the truth itself. So, why
      > are we so fanatical about sets of words that, sooner or later, we will
      > outgrow and relinquish?
      >
      >
      > Zack Lansdowne
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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