57443Re: theos-talk Update on Krishnamurti School in TS Adyar Property
- Jan 31, 2012Thanks for the additional information you have provided.
It is the lack of transparency and secrecy surrounding the discussions and
decision on the K School in Damodar Gardens that does not help anyone,
especially the members of TS.
Damodar Gardens is TS property acquired from the donations of several
ordinary TS members and specifically meant for the activities of
For all said and done, everyone in Chennai knows K School caters to the
kids of super rich and the fat cats in Chennai who support the school can
surely find alternative location.
Expansion of the Olcott memorial school vocational program is the best
thing that can happen to the poor and needy kids from the fisherman
community in Adyar who will benefit.
K School knew for quite some time that the lease expires in 2014 and why
they want till 2016 to move out needs explanation.
Also if any documents and proposals were presented to the GC members as
part of the push by K School supporters to continue the K school in Damodar
Gardens, why not make them available for everyone to see so that we all can
come to our own conclusions. We can also see any spinning the supporters
tried to do.
In all matters where money and property are involved, all kinds of politics
automatically gets into it. TS is no exception.
Also, it is the lack of transparency of the GC meetings that makes members
to take everything with a grain of salt, after all that happened since the
last International Election especially the failed ultra secret attempt by a
quartet from the West to disenfranchise all the members around the world
and seize control of the President.
Anyone having more info on the topic is welcome to post it here or can
email me off list.
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Sampsa Kuukasjärvi <
> Hi,[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> I have heard that things are not so black and white that the Theosophical
> Society should have chosen between the Olcott vocational school or
> Krishnamurti School. I heard that there was a possibility that both schools
> would have functioned in the area at the same time. According to my source,
> Krishnamurti School proposed this alternative strongly. It even suggested
> that it would compensate the very low rent from earlier years. This is why
> some General Secretaries supported the continuing of the School.
> The lease ends between 2014, but there is the time of two years to move. In
> practice, the Krishnamurti School will stay in the area until 2016.
> The decision, which the General Council made about Damodar Gardens last
> December, is permanent; the Krishnamurti School must leave. Please let us
> not mix politics or president speculation of the TS to it.
> 2012/1/30 MKR <mkr777@...>
> > **
> > Here is an update on Krishnamurti School located in TS Adyar Property
> > Since 1979, Krishnamurti School has been functioning on the TS Adyar
> > Property known as Damodar Gardens. The lease ends in 2014 and at the
> > General Council meeting a decision was taken not to renew the lease. It
> > also decided to use the property to provide vocational education by the
> > Olcott Memorial School, established by Col Olcott, which serves the poor
> > students in Adyar fishermen community.
> > Annual General Council meeting of TS takes place in greatest secrecy and
> > very little is known what goes on except for brief report published
> > annually. (Most of us here have not forgotten the failed ultra secret
> > attempt by a quartet of GC members from the West to disenfranchise all
> > members of TS and seize control of the Presidency.) Occasionally few
> > of information trickle out through grapevine.
> > Let us briefly revisit the situation surrounding the K School lease of
> > Adyar property..
> > Krishnamurti School is a super elitist school which serves the super
> > This is well known in Chennai. Moneyed parents send their average kids to
> > the school in the belief and hope they will come out appearing smart.
> > On the other hand, Colonel Olcott, in 1894, founded ‘The Panchama Free
> > School’ as it was then called, to provide free schooling access to the
> > children of the fifth caste (untouchable) who were denied access to the
> > regular schools. Olcott Education Society (renamed from Panchama Free
> > Schools Society) the education arm of the Theosophical Society continues
> > run the school with the vision “Social change through the education of
> > underprivileged”. It continues to provide free education upto high school
> > and continues to benefit the poor kids in the neighboring fishermen
> > community.
> > Olcott School is planning to use the Damodar Garden facilities after K
> > school leaves, to offer vocational education for the students who
> > high school. This plan is in line with the thrust of what Olcott wanted
> > do and is a laudable humanitarian endeavor that TS can be proud of. As a
> > long time member of the TS, I see no way any theosophist can support the
> > use of TS property for an elitist school. (By the way, it is reported
> > the K school has been enjoying the TS property for a pittance all these
> > years.). There is continued strong support from the average public for
> > work done by Olcott School and its future plans.
> > It is a well known that supporters of Krishnamurti School - followers of
> > parents of students, alumni of the school - made a concerted effort to
> > the lease renewed. It was unsuccessful for now.
> > It is learnt through grapevine that the supporters of the school were
> > successfully lobbying many members of the General Council from the West
> > renew the lease and they fell for it. It was amazing that they were
> > successful in convincing a significant number of members and they were
> > supporting the renewal of lease at the GC meeting. One is wondering if
> > GC members were aware of the facts as explained above and the soundness
> > the recommendation of the committee which looked into the lease issue.
> > I was in surprise for another new piece of information. The earlier
> > show that the lease expires in 2014. But the School website says that it
> > can operate till September 2016. Few people would have noticed the
> > significance of this date.
> > The present term of office of the International President expires in
> > Considering the fact that the current president is currently in 89th
> > the likely hood of having a new president in 2015 is very high. The
> > supporters of K School may be hoping and planning to revive the issue
> > a new administration and continue to permanently use TS property to
> > the elite. How and why there is discrepancy in the lease expiration date
> > need to be investigated. Has a behind the scenes deal been stuck?
> > MKR
> > PS: If anyone has additional info on the above, feel free to post or
> > me off-list.
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