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57375Re: theos-talk About Emma Britten and the torch-bearer of truth

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  • MKR
    Jan 21, 2012
      Excellent.

      The concepts of Karma and Reincarnation are the two pillars of every
      Eastern Religion and now the West is aware of them.

      It may be decades before we will know for sure what the end of century
      outpouring was and who was the light bearer.

      The information that came thru HPB is still being digested by the world and
      I am yet to see another comprehensive presentation of the topics she did.

      MKR

      On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:35 PM, paulobaptista_v
      <paulobaptista_v@...>wrote:

      > **
      >
      >
      > Thank you Govert for all you wrote about K.
      >
      > I do not agree with your perspective on Blavatsky. My ideas about her are
      > closer to Daniel's.
      > I was appalled to see Marion Meade's biography about Blavatsky mentioned
      > as a good book, when her statements on this video
      >
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vThc0c1WIug&feature=related
      > (check also parts 1, 3 and 4)
      >
      > confirm the warnings made by Carrithers
      > http://blavatskyfoundation.org/abstractionfromtbf.htm
      >
      > I see no use in reading a book based on older books that are known to
      > depict lies.
      >
      > For me, the most interesting biography about Blavatsky is "Blavatsky and
      > her teachers", by Jean Overton Fuller. Although not a biography in a strict
      > way, Daniel's "The Esoteric World of Mme Blavatsky" is also extremely
      > helpful if you want to know the arguments of those who were for and against
      > the Old Lady.
      >
      > I don´t have a good impression about Elizabeth Claire Prophet, although I
      > admit I do not have enough information on her. I know that in alpheus.orgthere are some articles about Prophet, and I intend to read them. She won
      > the Ig Nobel prize in 2011 for predicting the end of world in the year of
      > 1990 and some of her sons have strongly criticized her. Check what one of
      > them had to say in 2006:
      >
      >
      > http://www.blacksunjournal.com/elizabeth-clare-prophet/150_happy-birthday-mom_2006.html
      >
      > In a previous post someone mentioned Emma Hardinge Britten. As far as I am
      > aware, Emma Britten was one of the first members of the TS. In 1876 she
      > published "Art Magic", a book which was recently re-edited by Marc
      > Demarest. Yesterday I was searching for that passage about the
      > "torch-bearer of truth" in the Portuguese version of the "Key to Theosophy"
      > and in the previous page I found strong criticism by Blavatsky about "Art
      > Magic".
      >
      > She wrote: "The cycle of "Adepts," used as sledge-hammers to break the
      > theosophical heads with, began twelve years ago, with Mrs. Emma Hardinge
      > Britten's "Louis" of Art Magic and Ghost-Land, and now ends with the
      > "Adept" and "Author" of The Light of Egypt, a work written by Spiritualists
      > against Theosophy and its teachings."
      >
      > "The spiritualistic author of Art Magic, etc., may or may not have been
      > acquainted with such an Adept [Louis, who according to Emma Britten, gave
      > much of the information contained in the book]— and saying this, I say far
      > less than what that lady has said and written about us and Theosophy for
      > the last several years — that is her own business."
      >
      > Blavatsky and Emma became enemies right after the release of Art Magic?
      > When did Emma leave the TS?
      >
      > About the 20th century "torch bearer of truth", I found these two articles
      > written by Carrithers:
      >
      > http://blavatskyfoundation.org/torch.pdf
      >
      > http://blavatskyfoundation.org/hasdamodarreturned.pdf
      >
      > and also this one published in the Winter of 2008 in Fohat
      >
      > http://www.theosophyonline.com/ler.php?id=298
      >
      > which are of some interest, concerning this subject.
      >
      > When we look to the last quarter of the 20th century we see a
      > popularization of the concepts of karma and reincarnation, mainly through
      > the hands of men of science. We have Raymond Moody Jr's "Life after Life"
      > released in 1975 about NDEs. In 1977, the first academic article by prof.
      > Ian Stevenson about reincarnation was accepted by a medical journal (his
      > work gave strong support to the advocates of reincarnation). We could even
      > add Brian Weiss' books about past lives, the first being published in 1988.
      > Buddhist teachings spread widely in the West during the 1975-2000 period.
      >
      > In astrology, we had the resurge of ancient techniques, with the
      > translation of valuable old books by astrologers like Robert Hand, Robert
      > Zoller and Robert Schmidt, all of them with an extensive knowledge of Greek
      > or/and Latin. This had a tremendous impact in the Art.
      >
      > It is quite clear for me that the common man of our Western societies has
      > heard a lot about karma and reincarnation in the last 35 years. Movies (and
      > even soap operas) used them as plot devices. Despite of all that happened
      > in the 60's I guess that those concepts were not that popular in 1975 as
      > they are now.
      > There was not an intervention of a "torch- bearer of truth", nor did the
      > TS had an important role in the 1975-2000 period. Taking HPB words
      > literally, we can hypothesize that the course of events led to a change of
      > strategy, and the option was to popularize two core concepts, benefiting
      > from the visibility and credibility that men of science have. Of course we
      > could discuss some of their methods, especially in the case of Brian Weiss.
      >
      > I am sure that all that happened in the TS after Blavatsky's death surely
      > impeded the TS of being the body that could continue the work of its
      > Founders. I certainly agree with Carrithers and Redfern on this.
      >
      > Blavatsky's words were:
      > "Towards the close of each century you will invariably find that an
      > outpouring or upheaval of spirituality — or call it mysticism if you prefer
      > — has taken place. "
      >
      > And the question that has to be asked is if this happened in the last
      > quarter of the 20th century or not. In my opinion, yes, it has.
      >
      > PB
      >
      >
      >


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