5105Theos-World Re: HPB, the Masters, and drugs.
- Feb 5 6:48 PMReg."It takes One to know One.", if you want to accuse me of drug use
you are at the wrong address, I never took any drugs.
--- In theos-talk@y..., "Dennis Kier" <dennw3k@e...> wrote:
> I guess that you are saying that because she could write with a
> certain knowledge _about_ herbal substances, therefore she was a
> habitual user of such substances.??
> Carrying that a bit further, I long felt that since you seem
> with all this drug and herbal usage, that you yourself MUST be a
> habitual user of those same substances. If we were to conduct a poll
> of those readers of this thread about "Who is Stoned", I personally
> would feel that more probably You and Frank were "stoned", than HPB
> and Olcott.
> I have heard it said that "It takes One to know One."
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bri_mue <bri_mue@y...>
> To: <theos-talk@y...>
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:56 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: HPB, the Masters, and drugs.
> > In an interview with the "New York World",April 2, 1877,"Why a
> > Russian Countess Firmly Believes in Magic," Blavatsky later stated
> > publicly that "the chief of the gurus showed me things wich I
> > demonstrated to be truth. For instance he made me look at a bright
> > tin plate and fix my toughts on something I wished to see."He made
> > passes over her and made her drink a potion "the ingredients of
> > I know but will not tell"
> > In "Erroneous Ideas Concerning the Doctrines of the
> > Theosophists,"published in 1879, she declared that proof of
> > of conditional immortality was only given the neophyte "durring
> > Great Mysteries, when a sacred beverage enabled him to leave his
> > and, soaring in the infinity of worlds, observe and look for
> > himself."
> > Blavatsky writes; "The women of Thessaly and Epirus, the female
> > heirophants of the rites of Sabazius, did not carry their secrets
> > away with the downfall of their sanctuaries. They are still
> > preserved, and those who are aware of the nature of soma (a plant
> > whose juices induce a hypnotic trance-like state) know the
> > of other plants as well." ( Isis Unveiled)
> > In the "Religio-Philosophical Journal 22/20, May 19, 1877:p. 4,
> > Blavatsky wrote that the separation of soul and body is "one of
> > last and very highest achievements of magic."
> > Related to this in Blavatsky's schema was the sacred "Sleep of
> > an obvious reference to the Sleep of Sialam, a term used by
> > P.B.Randolph in his Rosicrucian novel Ravalette (1863) for the
> > highest, drug induced vision state. It was taken up in Isis
> > where it relates to a drug- induced, prophetic "sublime lethargy"
> > wich the uncounscious subject is made the "temporary receptacle of
> > the brightness of the immortal Augoeides."
> > P.Deveney in "Astral Projection or Liberating of the Double and
> > Work of the Theosophical Society"( wites: Later the "Sleep of
> > Sialam" came to mean the soma-induced trance during wich the new
> > initiate- both in the Orient and in the ancient Mysteries-
> > the ultimate mysteries after undergoing the tests of Initiation.
> > ("The Esoteric Character of the Gospels, "Lucifer, November 1887)
> > Deveney ads that :"I do not think that drugs can be ruled out as a
> > possibility in seeking practical techniques in the TS.- and would
> > appear to be related to the degree structure or sections adopted
> > the Society at least as early as 1878 and which G.H.Felt , as we
> > shall see, says were adopted from the verry beginning." (Deveney
> > gives then more evidence as he goos on, and this is indeed one of
> > books that is recomended reading if one wants to study this
> > further, see: Deveney, "Astral Projection and the early TS")
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