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5104Re: Theos-World Re: HPB, the Masters, and drugs.

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  • Dennis Kier
    Feb 5, 2002
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      I guess that you are saying that because she could write with a
      certain knowledge _about_ herbal substances, therefore she was a
      habitual user of such substances.??

      Carrying that a bit further, I long felt that since you seem obsessed
      with all this drug and herbal usage, that you yourself MUST be a
      habitual user of those same substances. If we were to conduct a poll
      of those readers of this thread about "Who is Stoned", I personally
      would feel that more probably You and Frank were "stoned", than HPB
      and Olcott.

      I have heard it said that "It takes One to know One."

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: bri_mue <bri_mue@...>
      To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:56 PM
      Subject: Theos-World Re: HPB, the Masters, and drugs.

      > In an interview with the "New York World",April 2, 1877,"Why a
      > Russian Countess Firmly Believes in Magic," Blavatsky later stated
      > publicly that "the chief of the gurus showed me things wich I
      > demonstrated to be truth. For instance he made me look at a bright
      > tin plate and fix my toughts on something I wished to see."He made
      > passes over her and made her drink a potion "the ingredients of wich
      > I know but will not tell"
      > In "Erroneous Ideas Concerning the Doctrines of the
      > Theosophists,"published in 1879, she declared that proof of doctrine
      > of conditional immortality was only given the neophyte "durring the
      > Great Mysteries, when a sacred beverage enabled him to leave his
      > and, soaring in the infinity of worlds, observe and look for
      > himself."
      > Blavatsky writes; "The women of Thessaly and Epirus, the female
      > heirophants of the rites of Sabazius, did not carry their secrets
      > away with the downfall of their sanctuaries. They are still
      > preserved, and those who are aware of the nature of soma (a plant
      > whose juices induce a hypnotic trance-like state) know the
      > of other plants as well." ( Isis Unveiled)
      > In the "Religio-Philosophical Journal 22/20, May 19, 1877:p. 4,
      > Blavatsky wrote that the separation of soul and body is "one of the
      > last and very highest achievements of magic."
      > Related to this in Blavatsky's schema was the sacred "Sleep of *** "
      > an obvious reference to the Sleep of Sialam, a term used by
      > P.B.Randolph in his Rosicrucian novel Ravalette (1863) for the
      > highest, drug induced vision state. It was taken up in Isis Unveiled
      > where it relates to a drug- induced, prophetic "sublime lethargy" in
      > wich the uncounscious subject is made the "temporary receptacle of
      > the brightness of the immortal Augoeides."
      > P.Deveney in "Astral Projection or Liberating of the Double and the
      > Work of the Theosophical Society"( wites: Later the "Sleep of
      > Sialam" came to mean the soma-induced trance during wich the new
      > initiate- both in the Orient and in the ancient Mysteries-comprhends
      > the ultimate mysteries after undergoing the tests of Initiation.
      > ("The Esoteric Character of the Gospels, "Lucifer, November 1887)
      > Deveney ads that :"I do not think that drugs can be ruled out as a
      > possibility in seeking practical techniques in the TS.- and would
      > appear to be related to the degree structure or sections adopted by
      > the Society at least as early as 1878 and which G.H.Felt , as we
      > shall see, says were adopted from the verry beginning." (Deveney
      > gives then more evidence as he goos on, and this is indeed one of
      > books that is recomended reading if one wants to study this subject
      > further, see: Deveney, "Astral Projection and the early TS")
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