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5049Re: Theos-World Re: HPB, the Masters, and drugs.

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  • adelasie
    Feb 3, 2002
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      Thanks for you offering, Brigitte,

      However, Steve did say,

      (5) HPB did in fact use botanical substances, as she
      > > > said herself, and her masters did as well, as she
      > > > says,

      and I would like to read those statements for myself.

      Adelasie



      On 3 Feb 02, at 11:23, bri_mue wrote:

      > Adelasie: Where may we find statements by HPB to the effect that she
      > and the Masters used "botanical substances?"
      >
      > Olcott himself clearly states that when it rained
      > inside his apartment, etc., there were herbs being
      > burned by his two purpoerted "adepts", visitors.
      >
      > Many serious Theosophical historians like for example Patrick
      > Deveney and Joscelyn Godwin will confirm that Blavatsky took drugs.
      >
      > For example John Patrick Deveney writes in "Theosophical History
      > Occasional Papers" Vol.VI (published by James Santucci); "H.P.B.'s use
      > of hashish in the New York days is well attested though the subject is
      > ussually dismissed as an idiosyncrasy rather then seriously
      > discussed.- It is perhaps to the use of such drugs by Theosophists (or
      > at least H.P.B.) that Emma Hardings Britten is referring in "Art
      > Magic" when she condemns "all the hazy metaphysicians that have
      > essayed to found new sects, on the basis of tobacco,hasheesh, and
      > opium visions."
      >
      > J.Godwin in "The Theosophical Enlightenment" ads to that; "Hashish was
      > tipically used with the intention of communicating with angels using a
      > magic mirror , and magnetists used it to enhance the perceptions of
      > their somnambulists" (mediums)
      >
      > Brigitte
      >
      > --- In theos-talk@y..., "adelasie" <adelasie@s...> wrote:
      > > Dear Steve,
      > >
      > > Would you be so kind as to supply us with some additonal
      > > information?
      > >
      > > > (2) the WB was a real organization, based on northern
      > > > India which may or may not still exist,
      > > >
      > > What does "WB" stand for?
      > > >
      > > > (5) HPB did in fact use botanical substances, as she
      > > > said herself, and her masters did as well, as she
      > > > says, and Olcott's Ootan Liatto experience is
      > > > explicable in terms of herbs burned by Ootan Liatto
      > > > and his companion in Olcott's presence,
      > >
      > >
      > > Where may we find statements by HPB to the effect that she and the
      > > Masters used "botanical substances?"
      > >
      > > Thank you,
      > > Adelasie
      >
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