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  • KarenUK
    Not to this year s, but I saw Pandora s Box & loved it. Karen (UK). ... From: nutsaboutclara To:
    Message 1 of 13 , Feb 6, 2009
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      Not to this year's, but I saw Pandora's Box & loved it.
      Karen (UK).


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "nutsaboutclara" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
      To: <thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:45 PM
      Subject: [The New Coven of Louise Brooks] Re: Lulu in The Guardian


      > Did you go see it, Karen?
      >
      > -Dario.
      >
      >
      > --- In thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com, "KarenUK"
      > <nhbr22476@...> wrote:
      >>
      >> Bristol, England (where I live) is doing a Silent Film Festival at
      > the
      >> moment. About two years ago, they had another where I saw
      > Pandora's Box in a
      >> theatre on a big screen with a live orchestra doing the music!
      >>
      >> Karen (UK).
      >>
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message -----
      >> From: "ioracara" <ioracara@...>
      >> To: <thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com>
      >> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:02 PM
      >> Subject: [The New Coven of Louise Brooks] Re: Lulu in The Guardian
      >>
      >>
      >> > Like das impersonator, I have to disagree with this. I have
      > traveled
      >> > extensively in Europe, and there does not seem to be any greater
      >> > popular appreciation for silent films than here in the U.S. The
      > only
      >> > country I've seen that has an appreciation for those films is
      > possibly
      >> > France, and they also seem to be the only one with any organized
      >> > groups trying to preserve silents . . . but only a couple, and
      > they
      >> > are government sponsored.
      >> >
      >> > Here, however, we have a great number of groups dedicated to
      >> > preserving old films, and most are publicly and corporately
      > sponsored,
      >> > as well as by the government. We have the LOC, but also the
      > Eastman
      >> > House, the AFI, Turner Classics, Kino, Criterion, UCLA, and on
      > and on.
      >> > I have no concrete info to make this next statement, but via
      >> > observation I firmly believe more silent films have been
      > preserved
      >> > through American efforts than the rest of the world combined.
      >> >
      >> > Germany has no such groups, nor does Britain. Italy has enough
      > trouble
      >> > just being Italy. And Eastern Europe? Not at all.
      >> >
      >> > Furthermore, I know of theaters in at least three U.S. different
      >> > cities that regularly show silent films, including one in Los
      > Angeles
      >> > that shows nothing BUT silent films. Even France cannot claim
      > that.
      >> >
      >> > Grass is often greener on the other side, but in this case I
      > think the
      >> > original statement was incorrect in its assumption. Even though
      > it's
      >> > easy to make such claims, not everything in Europe is better
      > than in
      >> > the U.S.
      >> >
      >> > --- In thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com, nutsaboutclara
      >> > <no_reply@> wrote:
      >> >>
      >> >> True, but I was talking about the movie-going public of today,
      > not
      >> >> specifically the silent film fan base here in America. The
      > silent
      >> >> film fan base already appreciates Brooksie very much, but not
      > the
      >> >> general movie-going public; anything that's not made for today's
      >> >> taste is held in high regard. Europeans on the other hand, not
      > only
      >> >> view today's films, but enjoy the classics of the past,
      > including
      >> >> silent films. That's why I posted the comment; Europeans
      > appreciate
      >> >> silent films more than the average American does. It's a
      > reflection
      >> >> of our times, really.
      >> >>
      >> >> -Dario.
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >> --- In
      > thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com, "das_imperator"
      >> >> <dasimperator@> wrote:
      >> >> >
      >> >> > To be fair you might want to check the member list of this
      > and your
      >> >> > Clara Bow group before making such a blanket statement. I'm
      > sure the
      >> >> > good old USA is fairly well represented in silent movie
      > fandom. Most
      >> >> > of the books and DVDs that cover the silent period come out
      > of the
      >> >> US
      >> >> > market and do so because there are buyers for them.
      >> >> >
      >> >> > --- In thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com,
      > nutsaboutclara
      >> >> > <no_reply@> wrote:
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Nice to see Brooksie get a mention from the Guardian. At
      > least
      >> >> > > Europeans like the British appreciate silent film
      > performers like
      >> >> > > Louise, not like the rest of America, who could give a
      > (blank)
      >> >> about
      >> >> > > silent film. Shame on the U.S.A.!
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > -Dario.
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > --- In thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com,
      > olive_e_thomas
      >> >> > > <no_reply@> wrote:
      >> >> > > >
      >> >> > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/jan/21/female-
      > icons-
      >> >> > > cinema/print
      >> >> > > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> >
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
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    • nutsaboutclara
      Well, that s what I meant, Karen, about seeing PANDORA S BOX(1929). -Dario. ... at ... Guardian ... greater ... The ... organized ... different ... though ...
      Message 2 of 13 , Feb 11, 2009
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        Well, that's what I meant, Karen, about seeing PANDORA'S BOX(1929).

        -Dario.


        --- In thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com, "KarenUK"
        <nhbr22476@...> wrote:
        >
        > Not to this year's, but I saw Pandora's Box & loved it.
        > Karen (UK).
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "nutsaboutclara" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
        > To: <thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:45 PM
        > Subject: [The New Coven of Louise Brooks] Re: Lulu in The Guardian
        >
        >
        > > Did you go see it, Karen?
        > >
        > > -Dario.
        > >
        > >
        > > --- In thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com, "KarenUK"
        > > <nhbr22476@> wrote:
        > >>
        > >> Bristol, England (where I live) is doing a Silent Film Festival
        at
        > > the
        > >> moment. About two years ago, they had another where I saw
        > > Pandora's Box in a
        > >> theatre on a big screen with a live orchestra doing the music!
        > >>
        > >> Karen (UK).
        > >>
        > >>
        > >> ----- Original Message -----
        > >> From: "ioracara" <ioracara@>
        > >> To: <thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com>
        > >> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:02 PM
        > >> Subject: [The New Coven of Louise Brooks] Re: Lulu in The
        Guardian
        > >>
        > >>
        > >> > Like das impersonator, I have to disagree with this. I have
        > > traveled
        > >> > extensively in Europe, and there does not seem to be any
        greater
        > >> > popular appreciation for silent films than here in the U.S.
        The
        > > only
        > >> > country I've seen that has an appreciation for those films is
        > > possibly
        > >> > France, and they also seem to be the only one with any
        organized
        > >> > groups trying to preserve silents . . . but only a couple, and
        > > they
        > >> > are government sponsored.
        > >> >
        > >> > Here, however, we have a great number of groups dedicated to
        > >> > preserving old films, and most are publicly and corporately
        > > sponsored,
        > >> > as well as by the government. We have the LOC, but also the
        > > Eastman
        > >> > House, the AFI, Turner Classics, Kino, Criterion, UCLA, and on
        > > and on.
        > >> > I have no concrete info to make this next statement, but via
        > >> > observation I firmly believe more silent films have been
        > > preserved
        > >> > through American efforts than the rest of the world combined.
        > >> >
        > >> > Germany has no such groups, nor does Britain. Italy has enough
        > > trouble
        > >> > just being Italy. And Eastern Europe? Not at all.
        > >> >
        > >> > Furthermore, I know of theaters in at least three U.S.
        different
        > >> > cities that regularly show silent films, including one in Los
        > > Angeles
        > >> > that shows nothing BUT silent films. Even France cannot claim
        > > that.
        > >> >
        > >> > Grass is often greener on the other side, but in this case I
        > > think the
        > >> > original statement was incorrect in its assumption. Even
        though
        > > it's
        > >> > easy to make such claims, not everything in Europe is better
        > > than in
        > >> > the U.S.
        > >> >
        > >> > --- In thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com,
        nutsaboutclara
        > >> > <no_reply@> wrote:
        > >> >>
        > >> >> True, but I was talking about the movie-going public of
        today,
        > > not
        > >> >> specifically the silent film fan base here in America. The
        > > silent
        > >> >> film fan base already appreciates Brooksie very much, but not
        > > the
        > >> >> general movie-going public; anything that's not made for
        today's
        > >> >> taste is held in high regard. Europeans on the other hand,
        not
        > > only
        > >> >> view today's films, but enjoy the classics of the past,
        > > including
        > >> >> silent films. That's why I posted the comment; Europeans
        > > appreciate
        > >> >> silent films more than the average American does. It's a
        > > reflection
        > >> >> of our times, really.
        > >> >>
        > >> >> -Dario.
        > >> >>
        > >> >>
        > >> >> --- In
        > > thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com, "das_imperator"
        > >> >> <dasimperator@> wrote:
        > >> >> >
        > >> >> > To be fair you might want to check the member list of this
        > > and your
        > >> >> > Clara Bow group before making such a blanket statement. I'm
        > > sure the
        > >> >> > good old USA is fairly well represented in silent movie
        > > fandom. Most
        > >> >> > of the books and DVDs that cover the silent period come out
        > > of the
        > >> >> US
        > >> >> > market and do so because there are buyers for them.
        > >> >> >
        > >> >> > --- In thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com,
        > > nutsaboutclara
        > >> >> > <no_reply@> wrote:
        > >> >> > >
        > >> >> > > Nice to see Brooksie get a mention from the Guardian. At
        > > least
        > >> >> > > Europeans like the British appreciate silent film
        > > performers like
        > >> >> > > Louise, not like the rest of America, who could give a
        > > (blank)
        > >> >> about
        > >> >> > > silent film. Shame on the U.S.A.!
        > >> >> > >
        > >> >> > > -Dario.
        > >> >> > >
        > >> >> > >
        > >> >> > > --- In thenewcovenoflouisebrooks@yahoogroups.com,
        > > olive_e_thomas
        > >> >> > > <no_reply@> wrote:
        > >> >> > > >
        > >> >> > > >
        http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/jan/21/female-
        > > icons-
        > >> >> > > cinema/print
        > >> >> > > >
        > >> >> > >
        > >> >> >
        > >> >>
        > >> >
        > >> >
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