Support This Thelemite! Stipe Ivkovic- Arrested in his country for
speaking out in opposition of the pope.
on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 at 5:38am
I have had a fair bit of contact with Stipe over the last couple of
years, and can say that he doesn't deserve to be incarcerated. He has
expressed concerns to me on more than one occasion that something
like this could happen to him.
Reposted from The "Liber Oz" page (originally done by Allen
Greenfield). I have added a full translation of the news article, and
removed the "Pope was a Nazi" photos...
"Our brother in Croatia, Stipe Ivkovic, has been arrested in advance
of a visit to that country by the current Pope. As faras I can tell -
and I know Stipe well - his only "crime" is having made critical
comments on the Pope on his Facebook page. His home was broken into,
a gun inherited from his father (doubtless from the time of the
Balkan Wars) was treated as if a threat, and Stipe faces serious jail
time. For what? "Police in Zadar on Saturday changed versions of the
story on the occasion of breaking into a house Stipe I. First they
said they filed charges against only 22-year-old father because they
are in the home found unregistered guns and that no application
against the boys, because they found that there is no basis for it.
What changed in the meantime, the police say they do not know.
"Suspend the public interest, the Pope said in the first place..."
(loose translation of local report.)"
"The whole world is watching Croatia. Shame on you. Free Stipe
Ivkovic! Go to his Facebook site yourself, and see if you find
anything other than dissent. Then write Amnesty International, the
Croatian Government and the Pope!"
* Amnesty International - <http://www.amnesty.org/
* Republic of Croatia - <http://www.vlada.hr/en
* Papal Address -
Here is a crappy translation of the news article (now updated to a
If you have an opinion about the visit of Pope Ratzinger to Croatia,
if you're not thrilled with his character and deed, do not publicly
share your opinions on Facebook, because police could come knocking
on your door.
He called it the afflicted ( translation: sick, perhaps?) and
garbage. Is this a call for assassination?
Zadar police spokesman confirmed that Elis odan confirmed to Index
that they filed a criminal complaint against the 22-year-old Stipe I
for racial and other discrimination, because he was allegedly writing
threatening messages on Facebook against the Pope, like the one that
was "miserably and disgusting trash."
Police in Zadar on Saturday, changed several versions of the story on
the occasion of breaking into the family house of Stipe I. First they
said they filed charges only against the 22-year-old father because
they found unregistered guns in the home and stated that there is no
allegation against the boy, because they found that there is no basis
for it. What changed in the meantime, the police do not say.
*Suspend the public interest, the Pope is in the first place
We asked the police what specific FB-status prompted them to raid a
private family house, so that other citizens know what NOT to write
to keep this from happening to them. The odan spokesman said that he
is not allowed to say anything, because the criminal proceeding is
pending. Police, let's recall, on Saturday also refused to say what
young man wrote that was so frightening, and at that time they were
not deflected with the phrase "a criminal proceeding is pending,"
because he wasn't charged.
"In this case, we suspend the public's interest to know, because our
Holy Father's stay is the number one security issue," said odan.
*If the police responded this way to similar cases, they would be
raiding the flats of thousands internet forums participants.
He added that the police is by duty responding to similar threats,
but this statement is hardly true: then only on Internet forums where
there is a fierce debate about the Pope's arrival, they could find
thousands of people, get court orders, break into homes and file
criminal charges of hatred and discrimination.
Zadar police actually told us that the right to freedom of expression
on the Internet is temporarily suspended, at least until the Pope
Police, however, continue to state that Stipe I. threatened to
assassinate the Pope.