On 10 April 2010 14:31, 333 <nagasiva@...
> Jake Stratton-Kent <jakestrattonkent@...>:
> > hear hear, with the rider that some such groupings
> > do hold each other in respect and not all claim
> > originality. Nor could they, even in the terms
> > Crowley proposed (his adoption of Blavatsky and
> > other predecessors as 8=3 etc., shoots down in
> > coruscating flame the notion that he was the
> > founder and all important charter signatory, rather
> > than an organiser of a particular manifestation).
> I thought that his personal expression pertaining to
> his ethics and aesthetics displayed for all to see
> that his employment of Magick was a failure and his
> spiritual development stunted.
though a different issue, I don't disagree. While lacking the same
kind of appeal, Annie Besant demonstrated more social conscience and
better organisational abilities. Maybe if she'd been a junkie nympho
she'd get the same attention. ;-p
>perhaps it takes a
> certain standard of evaluation to arrive at this
> less than enthusiastic conclusion. more evaluation.
and either not caring for or getting over the 'kind of appeal' alluded
Nevertheless he wrote some inspired texts more important than himself
or his usual output. His personality unfortunately impedes wider
appreciation of the few significant contributions he made. Doubtless
you disagree about their importance, but we probably don't understand
them in the same terms.
> > Not that I propose any type of magical order is
> > necessary, just stating things for the record.
> that extending out of the non-physical into the
> reality of the mage has always been significant
> to me, and its possible influences unexpected.
> is it an order, or a chaos?
assuming I understand you, wielding influence or noteworthy
'creativity' is not necessarily aided and can be impeded by founding
Orders willy nilly, why occultists seem to find them obligatory is a
puzzle to me nowadays.
>isn't it amusing that
> they called them 'Secret Chiefs'? Scotsmen all.
just an evasive substitute term for (tutelary) spirits as far as I can
see, and its notable which has proven most universal, enduring and