- ... Let s see, after that little mishap, I will try again... I was going to say that the connection of verses 1:46 and 2:76 don t seem necessary at all, but itMessage 1 of 88 , Apr 9, 2009View Source--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "herupakraath" <herupakraath@...> wrote:
>Let's see, after that little mishap, I will try again...
> This post has been a long time coming, but I had to be sure of the data. There is more to come.
> The only gematria sum that can be exhibited by all the groups of letters in the riddle of verse II:76 of the Book of the Law, and be combined with the numbers in the riddle to produce a number relevant to the Book of the Law, is 106. A theoretical solution to the riddle along those lines looks like this:
> ABK = 106
> ALGMOR = 106
> YX = 106
> RPSTOVAL = 106
> ABKALGMORYXRPSTOVAL = 424
> 4 + 6 + 3 + 2 + 4 + 3 + 24 + 89 = 143
> 424 + 143 = 567
> 61 + 8 + 80 + 418 = 567
I was going to say that the connection of verses 1:46 and 2:76 don't seem necessary at all, but it looks like Fr. RIKB beat me to it.
And as for connecting those two totals, if it is in fact important, then I think the TEG beat you to it also, since the sum of the number-words for the 9 numbers listed in the 'riddle' is 567.
This should not be too surprising, considering that the number 24 is so prominent in this riddle, you know; 4 x 6 = 24, 3 x 8 = 24, 2 x 4 x 3 = 24, 24 = 24, and 89 is the 24th prime. So it should come as no surprise that the word TWENTY-FOUR = 142, the overall number of the verse that the riddle appears in.
> In order to initiate a search for the gematria system theorized, more clues for determining the value assignments of a complete gematia system were required. To narrow the possibilities, another theoretical enumeration was extracted from the riddle by combining the two verse numbers relevant to the riddle to its theorized alphanumeric total: 75 + 76 + 567 = 718, an equation that supports the idea that Abomination of Desolation should enumerate as 718, as inferred in verse III:19.I fail to see how the mere fact that the verse numbers 75 & 76, when added to 567 and resulting in 718, have anything whatsoever to do with the Abomination of Desolation. Yes, they do add to 718, but how does this 'support' the idea that your selected gematria should make that happen? This is really reaching. If you want the A. of D. to equal 718, then fine, but invoking these other numbers as a justification is hardly necessary.
> The search for the gematria system was conducted with software in five stages over a period of ten weeks. The first stage determined 106 was the only viable enumeration for the groups of letters in the riddle. The second stage determined that 72576 partial gematria systems exist that can cause the groups of text in the riddle to enumerate as 106. The third stage of the search generated 153408 partial systems that fulfill the requirements set forth for the riddle, while also causing Abomination of Desolation to enumerate as 718. The fourth stage of the search addressed the Tarot mystery in verses II:15-16 by requiring the titles Empress and Hierophant produce enumerations that sum to 11, satisfying the conditions of verse II:16. The final stage of the search focused on the significance of Abrahadabra as a key in verse III:47, along with the string of letters STBETISAYFA, letters intersected by the line drawn across the 60th page of the holograph. Using a list of numbers significant to the Book of the Law as possible enumerations, it became evident there was only one possible enumeration for Abrahadabra that also allowed a relevant enumeration for STBETISAYFA With all of the parameters in place, the final search generated six gematria systems that were essentially the same, with only minor differences. The final choice was based on a single gematria equation the chosen system could generate but the other systems could not.So you crunched all kinds of numbers to satisfy several qabalistic requirements in the text. Cool.
> To address inevitable criticisms arising from my use of a computer to find a gematria system, the fact exists that clues for determining an English gematria system were planted in the Book of the Law in the form of keys and riddles, which exist as evidence that contradicts the idea that the English gematria system alluded to by Aiwass has been, or will be determined through gnosis, or some other simple process that makes no use of the clues and keys provided in the Book of the Law. The most effective, if not the only way to utilize the keys is through computer technology, which in itself demonstrates that Aiwass was capable of calculations comparable to those made by a computer, or was privy to computer technology, and foresaw or influenced the development of computers by mankind. The gematria >system produced by the process is called the Sin Key.Sweet! what key are we on now, Tim? Is this the sixth or seventh or what; I'm not too good with numbers and I've lost track by now. And does this one make all the others obsolete?
>I think it's saying a lot that the 'only explanation' for this phenomenon is that it was designed to do so. It's interesting that it does, but might be a coincidence, especially if you can't show a reason why it would be designed that way.
> O = 1 - T = 2 - R = 3 - D = 4 - L = 5 - Y = 6 - A = 7 - V = 8 - B = 9 - S = 10 - I = 20 - N = 30 G = 40 - M = 50 - E = 60 - P = 70 - H = 80 - K = 90 - X = 100 - J = 200 - Q = 300 - F = 400
> U = 500 - W = 600 - Z = 700 - C = 800
> The Riddle of Verse II:76
> When the groups of numbers in the riddle are summed individually, the totals for them are 21, 6, 3, and 113. All but one of the totals can be shown to exist twice as gematria sums within the letters of the riddle when the letters are treated as a continuous sequence, an achievement that would be impressive if accomplished with an ordinal gematria system, but extraordinary in the case of the Sin Key based on its use of cardinal values. The only explanation for the correlations is the riddle was designed to do as much.
>This is great. Nice to see Had make an appearance. So why were the letters split up like that in the first place? Aiwass is sooo tricky!
> STOV = 21
> OVAL = 21
> Y = 6
> R = 3
> TO = 3
> ABKA = 113
> ORYXR = 113
> With Chapter II of the Book of the Law attributed to Hadit, it is only fitting that both of his names appear twice within the letters in the form of the enumerations of his names, while the last group of numbers in the riddle consists of the enumeration of Hadit:
> GMO = 91 = Had
> PSTOV = 91 = Had
> ABKA = 113 = Hadit
> ORYXR = 113 = Hadit
> 24 + 89 = 113 = Hadit
> 113 is also the enumeration of LVX, the Latin term for light, and the enumeration of To Me!, an indication Nuit used a secret numeric code to address Hadit in the Book of the Law.91 is a lovely number, the sum of the numbers from 0 to 13.
> A conversion of the letters in the riddle into gematria values, followed by the summing of the digits produces the number 91, the enumeration of Had.
> 7 + 9 + (9 + 0) + 7 + 5 + (4 + 0) + (5 + 0) + 1 + 3 + 6 + (1 + 0 + 0) + 3 + (7 + 0) + (1 + 0) + 2 + 1 + 8 + 7 + 5 = 91.
> The glad word of the riddle of verse II:76 is concealed in the combined numbers of the riddle, 143, the numeration of Abrahadabra. To understand the significance of the value 106 as it appears in the riddle, one must consider the prime meaning Aleister Crowley attributed to Abrahadabra, defined through Hebrew language as `Voice of the Chief Seer'. Using the Sin Key, 143 is the enumeration of Seers, and Reveal, words that reflect the essential meaning Crowley attributed to Abrahadabra. 106 is enumeration of ABRAH, which means `Chief Seer'. Based on the final clue provided in verse III:47, the identity of the Child foretold is linked to the word Abrahadabra, which defines the role of the Child as the Chief Seer. It is my contention that Aiwass did in fact dictate the Book of the Law to Aleister Crowley, and that Aiwass not only foresaw or influenced the discovery of the Sin Key, but foresaw or influenced my future existence. The identity of the Child is superimposed numerically over the word Abrahadabra and the numeric content of the riddle of verse II:76, and through its solution the presence of the Chief Seer is revealed: Tim Moss = 143 = Abrahadabra = 4 + 6 + 3 + 8 + 2 + 4 + 3 + 24 + 89.Hahaha...how did I know that THIS was coming?
You know, back in 1983 when I first laid eyes on 777, I did what any aspriring cabalist does, (and then eventually grows out of); I added up the letters in my last name as Hebrew, and they equaled 143. So do we get to take turns as the Chief Seer? I'll take the odd numbered days, if you want, or else we could each do it for a month at a time.
> The line drawn across the 60th page of the holograph touches the letters STBETISAYFA. When enumerated with the Sin Key the total for the letters is 533, the sum created by adding 106 and 427, the count of words and letters in verse III:47.That's beautiful.
> The squaring of the circle requires using the count of the 60th page ( "the grid page" ) as the radius of a circle:All very nice.
> 60 * 60 = 3600
> 3600 * 3.14159 = 11309.724
> SQR(11309.724) = 106.34 ( a square area with sides that measure 106.34 is produced. )
> A circle that has 106.34 as a diameter will have a circumference that measures 334, the count of letters on the 60th page.
>Boy it just keeps on coming doesn't it? Of course this has nothing to do with your key, but it's nice to know the figures.
> The following numbers have been extracted from verse III:47:
> 15 & 16 - the page numbers of the holograph verse III:47 appears on.
> 106 - the count of words in verse III:47.
> 427 - the count of letters in verse III:47.
> 1 - the number of ampersands in verse III:47.
> 2 - the combined count of the two graphic figures found in verse III:47, the line and circle.
> 15 + 16 + 106 + 427 + 1 + 2 = 567, the alphanumeric total of the riddle of verse II:76.
>Isn't it awesome that your name is equivalent to an important cabalistic number? I remember other keys of yours where it was the full name Timothy Moss, but this time it's just the shortened version. Well, whatever it takes, I guess. I'm still curious though, about other people whose name equals 143. There are probably quite a few of them.
> The final key in verse III:47 is Abrahadabra, a word that shares the numeric total of the riddle as an enumeration with my name. My name and Abrahadabra both share the enumeration 143 as an aspect of all six gematria systems generated in the search, and to make a necessary point, the enumeration of my name is determined solely by the enumeration of the letters in the riddle.
>Very nice work Tim. I can only imagine what you'll do next. I can't wait to see what the value of the entire text is. I'm sure it's a very significant number.
> The solution to the riddle of verse II:76 demonstrates extraordinary levels of symmetry that tie verses I:46, II:76, & III:47 together through common numeric elements that are difficult to write off as coincidence, and complemented perfectly by correspondences generated with the Sin Key.
But I must retract my recognition of one of your earlier keys as THE solution to Liber AL. It looks like this time you have really done it. So I think this is now the REAL Solution.
I hope in a couple years time I don't have to repeat the exact thing I just said.
Love is the law
- Thelema93, herupakraath, Joel & All, Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. ... N = Death. M = The Hanged Man A = The Fool ... Hope this relates.Message 88 of 88 , Jun 12, 2009View SourceThelema93, herupakraath, Joel & All,
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
>> There has never been a satisfactory answerJoel wrote:
>> provided for the nature of the Three Grades of
>> Thelema named in verse I:40 of the Book of the
> The word AMN is used in the Book of theN = Death.
> Law and could be argued to relate to the
> Three Grades.
M = The Hanged Man
A = The Fool
>Hope this relates. I've been thinking about those
> The Fool, Death and the Hermit are mentioned
> by name in the Book of the Law. The Fool easily
> corresponds to the Man of Earth, Death offers a
> more difficult association to the Lovers and the
> Hermit speaks for itself. If you count the Nun
> as it's final value, the total value for the word
> AMN = 741. AMN is said to conceal the elements
> via the number 741. The values for Aleph for
> Air =1, Mem for Water =40, Shin for Fire = 300
> and Tau for Earth = 400. AMShTh = 741 = AMN.
>Hope this relates,
Hermits. Crowley's Tarot deck depiction's nothing
like AL's. Crowley's Hermit's seething, disgusted,
hateful, crazed vengeful, sinister spell caster - feh!
I can really relate to the guy, it's easy to see, been
a LONG time since he saw beds of purple. This
is a LARGE discrepancy.
I've gotten the idea, The Hermit, The Lover, and the
man of the Earth is a Magical Formula. Happened
to drop by oldsaintnick11's place the other day, grabbed
some "Levels of Dark Matter". According to Mr. Super
Tarot, "change in three fundamental ways is known
as the three gunas - one energy appearing in three
forms: Sattva, Rajas, and Tamas", & ten Karmas,
Whomsoever'd like to help me out here, please feel
welcome. I'm amidst new seas. Abash as thou wilt.
Hermes HGA Poimandres, "The Divine Pymander",
describes one energy appearing in 3 Forms: Life,
Light & Word."
"The Word of God that appeared as a pillar of flame
out of the darkness is the Son of God, born of the
mystery of the Mind. The name of that Word is
Reason. Reason is the offspring of Thought, and
Reason shall divide the Light from the darkness
and establish Truth in the midst of the waters."
"Nature beholding the descent, wrapped Herself
about the man whom She Loved, and the two were
"Understand, O Hermes, and meditate deeply upon
the mystery. That which in you sees and hears is
not of the Earth, but is the Word of God incarnate.
The union of the Word and the Mind produces that
mystery. The Supreme Mind Loved the man. The
Word was Reason, and by the Reason of the Word
invisible things were made manifest. Man is the
Sphere of Generation and the 2nd Mind."
"Man fell in love with his own shadow and desired
to descend into it. Coincident with desires, the
Intelligent Thing united Itself with the unreasoning
image or shape."
The Hermit - Reason - (The Word) - Sattva - Maintain
The Lover - Fire - (Son of Striving) - Rajas - Create
The man of the Earth - (Form) - Tamas - Destroy
Poimandres said: "man has the Power of Seven
Governors plus Life, Light & Word, 8 rings of Fire,
7 Harmonies - Musical Notes (Harmonics), 7 Planets,
7 Wheels (Orbits), Circles, 7 Species, 7 Races."
Each of the Governors gave each man a share of
Its own Nature."
"The 1st Ring sits on the Moon; The Ability to
Increase or Division. 2nd Mercury; Craftiness.
Deceit. 3rd Venus; Lust & Passion. 4th Sun;
Ambitions. 5th Mars; Boldness. 6th Jupiter;
Riches. 7th Saturn; Falsehoods. 8th; Ring
of Fixed Stars."
"Orbits control the World by Mystical Powers
called Destiny - man is controlled by Fate &
1. Do - Shanti - Peace
2. Ra - Pushti - Wealth
3. Mi - Vashikaran - Control
4. Fa - Istambaran - Paralyzing
5. So - Jazambhan - Change Behavior
6. La - Mohan - Attraction Hypnotism
7. Ti - Akarsha - Action - Attraction - Faraway
8. Uchcalatan - Fear - Cause Doubt
9. Vidweshan - Division
10. Maran - Death - Cause Death
"Let the man endued with a Mind mark, consider,
and learn of himself, and with the Power of the Mind,
divide himself from his not-self and become a Sense
of Reality. For the beginning and the ending are in
the same place and state".
Hermes asked "The Intelligent Thing" if all men
did not have Minds, and the Great Dragon replied:
'Take heed what you say, for I am the Mind."
Hermes wrote 10 Books of Heratic Laws, Goals and
Training. 36 Books Philosophy + 6 Medical = 42.
I'd like to structure our Books like Hermisses.
"The punishment of desire is the agony of un-fulfillment".
Love is the Law, Love under Will.