tom chaudoin <taammuz@...> wrote:
> The problem with communication with discarnate, 'more-than-human'
entities is, as I see it, twofold: 1. How are we to know that these
beings have an objective reality of their own, and not just
archetypical constructs of the deep structure of the mind?
The problem is a long-standing one, and was addressed by Crowley on
occasion. One example is Crowley being given the word MAKHASHANAH
during the Enochian workings documented in Liber 418, which he
believed was evidence of a mind at work that was independent of his
own, due to the word length having to be reduced through
transliteration into Hebrew to make it enumerate to 418, as
Abrahadabra does. The example is a thin one, and not one that escapes
the chance of being simple luck.
When the other-worldly contacts Crowley was privy to are taken into
consideration, Aiwass, Nuit, Hadit, Ra-Hoor-Khut, Abuldiz, Hermes,
Amalantrah, and Lam, it appears the important issue for Crowley was
establishing contact while serving in the role of Logos, leaving later
generations to strengthen the established links and deal with issues
of proof. Without proof, or some form of impressive progress that
pushes the envelope, Thelemites run the risk of simply repeating the
same steps taken by Crowley, and so far nothing of real consequence
seems to have surfaced in the work of present researchers other than
> 2. If these beings have such reality, then, what means of
communication could they use to prove themselves, and, how could such
data be recorded and transmitted to a larger population, if possible?
Better yet, would discarnate entities choose to have mass appeal? As I
have suggested to you, there are relatively simple ways to encode
information into text using gematria that could be extremely
persuasive if the goal is to convince humans beyond a reasonable doubt
that superhuman intelligences exist. I can think of several reasons
why an entity might not choose to prove itself to the world at large,
namely due to the impact it would have on the day to day function of
The second part of your question is easily answered by the Cairo
Working: the Book of the Law would make an excellent vehicle for
proving to the masses that divine minds exist.
> We have already given the most likely answer to question 2:
Encryption. However, beyond the method of encryption it seems vital
that one should examine the information being encrypted, and to what
goals and purposes such information is being shared and expousing.
This an area where I continue to have problems with gematria--how does
one separate random equations from intentional ones? In the case of
ordinal gematria systems that can cause literally hundreds of words to
share the same enumeration, the available vocabulary must be limited
by some method, and the best one is focusing solely on established
ideas, which could and should produce phenomenal results in the hands
of a superhuman being.
> Popular American literature is rife with 'channelled writings', and
even more churlish, con-artist types pretending to be 'vehicles' for
'masters from other planes or planets', or somesort.
When I think back to when I started collecting occult literature, and
Thelemic writings specifically, the majority of it was good stuff, and
most of it had to be ordered through the mail and shipped in brown
paper wrappings. Now when I walk into a bookstore and see the crap for
sale in the New Age section I can only hang my head in disdain. Being
an occultist was much more fulfilling when it was considered patently
evil, and when real occultists were providing the material.
> Dissappointingly, most of the time these persons can only share what
can be described as pop-psychobabble or just decent life advice or
solipsistic mundane nonsense like: 'don't eat beans on Thursday' and
It's pathetic. When Madonna announced an interest in Kabbala I threw
my copy of 777 at the wall, and immediately doubled my efforts to find
the Key of it all before it's too late for Thelemites to reap the
benefit of it before pop-culture crashes the party. Recently my mother
asked if I had ever heard a story about Paul McCartney supposedly
dying, and it being covered up, which in itself was disturbing,
considering the only thing I had as a kid that was sacred was rock
and roll; the next thing you know she'll be asking me if I've ever
heard of that nice English gentleman named Aleister Crowley....
> Unlike these shills and hucksters, Liber Al seems to be the genuine
article, because of the massive level of encryption within the text,
and because of the profundity of the quasi-syncretic, Qaballastic
codex which is applied throughout the text, all without the apparent
knowledge of the author.
We can certainly agree on those points.
I'm short on time, I'll try to address the rest of your post later.