"Alamantra" <alamantra@...> wrote:
> Hi. Thanks for an enjoyable and interesting discussion.
> "Alamantra" wrote:
> Many of the biblical prophets ...as well as the prophets of Islam, >
for that matter... have been criticized to the point of being sewn >
up in animal skins and fed to wild animals or of finding temporary >
employment as human torches.
Lol. I can only hope that some of them were fictional for their own sake.
> As far as Crowley holding up to criticism, I would contend that he >
isn't criticized enough ...or can be for that matter. I don't mean >
as a scoundrel or a junkie or being broke or any of the other
> worn-out, useless labels some have seen fit to apply: ..Satanist
> ...a sacrificer of children... ---but real criticism of the text
> and context and meta-text ...his 'word,' as it were, using whatever
> limited means of illumination that we, ourselves, possess.
Quite wonderfully stated. I agree wholeheartedly, and can only wonder
what opinions would be of ancient prophets if we were knowledgeable of
their daily lifestyles and acquaintances in detail as we are of the
more recent figures like Crowley or Blavatsky.
> To use a specific example: In the late summer of 1993 I began an
> experiment and its idea was to pick a number ...any number that I
> might fancy for any given reason whatsoever... and concentrate on
> that number. I was inspired by someone who turned me on to the
> story of a friend who reported that he always looked at the clock
> at 11:11, and after he told her, she found it happening to her,
> then I found it happening to me and so on. This has happened to >
enough people that if anyone wishes to google "11:11 meaning" they >
will find that it is a widely reported phenomenon. Of course, I
> didn't know any of this back at the time. I wondered if one could
> pick any number...any number at all... and then see it began to
> manifest more and more.
> The number I picked was 432.
> After a very short time, 432 began to appear everywhere in my world
> ..and my bandmates reported its frequency as well. It was the cost >
of a meal, or the amount of change ...or the time on the clock when >
one of us would happen to look up or a passing phrase on a
> television or an overheard conversation.
I experienced the same thing with the number 718 during my fledgling
years as a Thelemite. Nonetheless, I still see numbers that are
significant to me, and consider them beneficial.
A good example that emphasizes your point, is me seeing one particular
commercial on television probably hundreds of times, and recently just
happened to notice for the first time the prefix for the phone number
flashed the screen is 271, the enumeration of Hoor-pa-kraat using a
new gematria system, which goes to show the conscious mind plays a
large role in the quest for number coincidences.
> But to bring all of this back to the Post-Crowley Thelema paradigm,
> I can go to David Cherubim's English Qabbalah and for 432, he comes
> up with: "432 = Bahlasti, Aiwass, Shaitan, Avenger, Warfare,
> Reguli, Lover, Mariage, Lust, Liberate, Nuith, One Palace,
> Neschamah, World, Samsara, Amulet, Pantacle, Money, Reason,
> Revealed, Siddhis, Nigredo, Mohammed, Krisna, Hanuman."
> One could take that and twist it into any number of forms,
> patterns, conjectures and inferences.
Agreed, and the given the influx and subsequent saturation of the
Thelema collective with gematria systems, someone will have to push
the envelope if gematria is to be taken seriously on a large scale.
> When I use the word "coincidence," I'm frequently misunderstood as >
many people associate that word with the dismissive idea of "mere
> coincidence." When I use it, especially in a vernacular for
> measuring non-ordinary events, I mean it to be two or more
> incidences occurring which have tangible, temporal connections.
> There is nothing "mere" about it. Rather than writing
> it off, I'm thinking about writing them all out.
You should, you have quite a way with words.
> >Having experienced the episode described, it is quite easy for me >
>to believe that Aiwass is an ancient personality of some sort,
> > with anability to reach across time and space.
> Why do you think that this intervention against your would-be
> attackers had something to do with Aiwass?
I don't specifically. What I meant to convey is that having
experienced something similar to discarnate entities from the past, I
don't find the existence of Aiwass to be out of the question.
> ...Meaning... Why do you think it has something to do with a
> historic entity, rather than the force of ...the very real
> power... of taking a word and combining it with images, meditation,
> chants, prayer, dedicating time etc (such as theurgy and
> thaumaturgy require) and cultivating that day after day after day
> and then being able to project it under an emotionally intense
There is more to the story, but to answer your question, I had no
knowledge of the occult, almost no knowledge of Egypt, no knowledge of
much of anything that was related to the events. Also keep in mind
that I was not the one seeing ancient Egyptians, the other two men were.
The two men I wrote of had previously injured, frightened, and
humiliated me, and I had every reason to hate them for it. On the
morning in question, the men were supposed to be living in another
state hundreds of miles away, so I had no reasonable expectation of
encountering them that day, but I was nonetheless overwhelmed by an
alarming heightening of the senses that translated into the clear
impression I would meet them. The feeling was so strong I bought a
large hardwood dowel rod as a weapon and put it in my car. Due to a
twist of fate, I found myself somewhere I had not anticipated that
day, having traveled there with someone else, only to recognize the
car of one of the men coming toward my location, and not because they
knew I was there, that was an impossibility.
The timing of the events was such that I was able to make it to the
car--not mine, or I would have left--and retrieve the wooden rod. I
positioned myself behind a van where I could ambush the worst one of
the two, because I knew he would be hot on my heels, he was a real
maniac. I positioned myself in a batting stance with every intention
of hitting the guy right in the teeth. During a period of less than a
minute or so, I was overwhelmed yet again by heightened senses, only
this time I experienced an incredibly benevolent presence, that in so
many words instructed me to put the weapon back in the car and not to
worry, that I was in no danger. I did so.