- ... From: 333 To: firstname.lastname@example.org Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: [t93] Re: Roman Numerals & English Qaballa (General, EQ) Hey 333Message 1 of 191 , May 20, 2008View Source
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Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:26 PM
Subject: [t93] Re: Roman Numerals & English Qaballa (General, EQ)
Hey 333 and All:
I was enjoying some of your commentary and thought I throw this into the pot.
Yesterday, I was listening to a tape given to me by a friend. This is a recording of Philip K. Dick talking about various things and there is a section on it where he speaks
of the I Ching as a device in his story, VALIS. I found it interesting because some of his comments on it reflect some of my own attitudes on the QBLH. In describing the I Ching he refers to it as a 'transducer system', which one could also apply to QBLH. ...At least I have. I've always taken the meaning of QBLH at its face value ...to receive, or that which is received. To my rough-shod mind this is more about creating an open, receptive state for instructive communication than the imposition of a specific system. In fact, I have long considered that forcing material to adhere to such an imposition may actually block the reception of instructive transmission. By insisting on such an imposition, one is projecting an expectation which would seem prohibitive to being in a receptive state. Here is a rough transcript of the P.K. Dick tape excerpt:
"The NSDAP authorities have taken away all of his copies of the I Ching which he used for plotting his books. Their purpose being to keep him from writing. What this results in, however, is his encountering the animating force behind the I Ching. ...The I Ching essentially being a transducer of our construct like a mechanical computer. What the Chinese call the Spirits of the Ancestors. The I Ching is 3000 years old. We need an updated transducer system or Logos. The I Ching is an early form of the Logos ...and its printout is a limited vocabulary, probably limited in many other ways. In any case, limited. And, being in touch with the spirits themselves, there's a transcendental mystery. Who are the spirits? What are they? What do they consist of? They're plural... the Elohim in Hebrew. They're our ancestors. If healing is needed, a healing ancestor spirit surfaces such as Asclepius. ...He's working out his superior transduction system ...The transcendental mystery is the nature of these spirits: Who? What? Where? When? and so on. And as it develops they have a purpose of their own. No matter what questions you ask the I Ching it begins to shape you along certain lines. Lines which they really want you shaped along. Likewise, no matter what transduction system is used there is a shaping, an educating. It is a tutorial thing. It is a teaching instrument. What it does to you is develop you along the lines best for you. It has a grand social purpose. One of the great plots in the novel Valis is the I Ching. The spirits that have animated it are going to overthrow the Nazi tyranny because they overthrow tyranny...They are not only educating individuals and improving them, they are educating society and improving in a way that is a slow, gentle persistent activity against oppression and tyranny. The transduction system is divided into two halves. One half is your question and the other half is the book or the lines. ...It's a kind of code then. One half is in your head and the other is in the book. You can see one half. Unless you see the other half, you have nothing. You can sit right in front of your oppressor and use it. He can't tell what you're obtaining. Obviously this transduction system is built from two halves. One in his head, one outside.
The one outside is all the Logos that comes to him and all the written things ...every piece of written thing, on TV, magazines, newspapers, books ...anything written down ...literally written, I guess oral too, but really, written. They're only half. You could go over them forever. I mean, no matchbook cover is going to spell out a message from the Elohim. Its' going to spell out what it spells out. "Close first before striking." Some of the integers in the external Logos is really a linkup with something inside him. Now, how does he arrive at the things inside of him? ...which is the equivalent of the questions that one ask the I Ching. This all works by a coupling of parts ..each fragment of which appears as a whole ...Like "Eat whole wheat bread." That's a complete sentence. It never occurs to you that it might be a portion of another message ...a portion that when added to another thing is a complete message."
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- Thelema Alla Ra Adam, Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. ... Um, hi there! How are ya? About yesterday? The ah... you know, stupid & stuff?...Message 191 of 191 , Jun 20, 2009View SourceThelema Alla Ra Adam,
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
> Thelema concerns that one arena which he wishedUm, hi there! How are ya? About yesterday? The
> he was gifted in, but was not. coincidentally that
> one arena that the most drastic advances have
> occurred in ~ creative visual arts. It completes
> him. If one does not there masterfully excel one
> is not equipped to comprehend transcendent
> will. And I certainly do not refer to the
> mediocre talent of a Harris.
ah... you know, stupid & stuff?... well I'm sorry...
I see I might not have understood your meaning.
Would you please tell me what makes you think
Crowley wished he was gifted in "Therion Thelema"?
How do you know he wasn't? ... and how do you
know he wished he was gifted? I don't understand
why you see it as gifted - seems to me it's learned.
Love is the Law, Love under Will.